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  • aquaek4i
    Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 280

    DROS 10 day... on 7,8,9,10 day denied possible?

    Just curious has this ever happen to any anyone? Are you still in deep waters til the 10th day. Does it really take 10 days to do all the back round checks? Now if the DROS is denied well they call you right away or the FFL does? Thanks

    In other words on what day of the 10 day hold your safe?
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    dachan
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 1973

    You are safe exactly 240hrs after submitting the DROS if there is not a delay or denial within that time.

    If a DROS is delayed or denied, only the FFL is notified by the DOJ. Neither he or the DOJ needs to pro-actively notify you. If the FFL doesn't give you a courtesy call, you'll find out when you walk in to pickup your purchase. If it is a denial, you'll be given a POA form so that any firearms currently in your possession can be transfered out.

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    • #3
      aquaek4i
      Member
      • Jan 2010
      • 280

      quick question, What if the dros is denied for the seller? Lets say he/she happens to not be the original owner of firearm being dros or has DMV issues or other issue causing dros to be delay or denied? Would you lose out on the money you paid to the seller?

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      • #4
        dachan
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 1973

        Originally posted by aquaek4i
        quick question?
        Long answer:

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        • #5
          aquaek4i
          Member
          • Jan 2010
          • 280

          thanks, read that thread before posting this. I think I got it

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          • #6
            tenpercentfirearms
            Vendor/Retailer
            • Apr 2005
            • 13007

            Originally posted by dachan
            You are safe exactly 240hrs after submitting the DROS if there is not a delay or denial within that time.
            Incorrect. I had an 11th day denial. The guy had already picked up the gun. I had him bring it back in.
            www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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            • #7
              halifax
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 4440

              Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
              Incorrect. I had an 11th day denial. The guy had already picked up the gun. I had him bring it back in.
              Wow. If the customer refuses to bring it back, is it up to you or the DOJ to get the police involved? Wouldn't the police be required to take all his firearms?

              I hope this never happens to me.
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              • #8
                dachan
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2007
                • 1973

                Originally posted by halifax
                Wow. If the customer refuses to bring it back, is it up to you or the DOJ to get the police involved? Wouldn't the police be required to take all his firearms?

                I hope this never happens to me.
                Right, if after 10days the firearm has already be released, it's up to the authorities to get it back. I sure wouldn't get involved, beyond provide the information on the DROS and 4473.

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                • #9
                  tenpercentfirearms
                  Vendor/Retailer
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 13007

                  I called and told the dude and asked him to return it. We met in Bakersfield and he gave it to me. He was a Kern County Fire Captain! Mistaken identity. If he had refused, then I would have notified the Kern County Sheriffs and let them deal with it. It didn't need to go that way. He got it cleared up and came back later on.
                  www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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                  • #10
                    bg5
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 3

                    so, i just filed the dros yesterday for a new handgun, just to find out today that there is a warrant out for my arrest because i did not pay a fine in time, for a non-traffic violation. my ca drivers license is still valid and has not been suspended..... is my dros going to be denied?

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                    • #11
                      tenpercentfirearms
                      Vendor/Retailer
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 13007

                      Originally posted by bg5
                      so, i just filed the dros yesterday for a new handgun, just to find out today that there is a warrant out for my arrest because i did not pay a fine in time, for a non-traffic violation. my ca drivers license is still valid and has not been suspended..... is my dros going to be denied?
                      You will find out.
                      www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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                      • #12
                        jtmkinsd
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 2352

                        Originally posted by dachan
                        You are safe exactly 240hrs after submitting the DROS if there is not a delay or denial within that time.

                        If a DROS is delayed or denied, only the FFL is notified by the DOJ. Neither he or the DOJ needs to pro-actively notify you. If the FFL doesn't give you a courtesy call, you'll find out when you walk in to pickup your purchase. If it is a denial, you'll be given a POA form so that any firearms currently in your possession can be transfered out.
                        POA form? I don't recall ever giving a power of attorney form to anyone for being denied a firearm purchase. Since the reasons for being denied are so many such as simply owing money to DMV, incorrect information (what DMV has on file doesn't match what you put on DROS), or a hundred other reasons. Simply being denied a firearm purchase doesn't mean you automatically have to give up all your firearms. It's not your FFL's responsibility to facilitate the taking of your guns either. That is strictly the job of the court system and law enforcement.
                        Originally posted by orangeglo
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                        • #13
                          jtmkinsd
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 2352

                          Originally posted by bg5
                          so, i just filed the dros yesterday for a new handgun, just to find out today that there is a warrant out for my arrest because i did not pay a fine in time, for a non-traffic violation. my ca drivers license is still valid and has not been suspended..... is my dros going to be denied?
                          Best advice is to go take care of the warrant ASAP...I won't say you will absolutely get a denial, or even a delay, but in the event you do get denied your FFL will give you contact information for DOJ. When you call them you can say you took care of it and fax them a copy of the court record. If you're denied you will have to pay another $25 for a new DROS fee.
                          Originally posted by orangeglo
                          Welcome to failtown, population = you.

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                          • #14
                            kel-tec-innovations
                            Veteran Member
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 3931

                            Originally posted by aquaek4i
                            quick question, What if the dros is denied for the seller? Lets say he/she happens to not be the original owner of firearm being dros or has DMV issues or other issue causing dros to be delay or denied? Would you lose out on the money you paid to the seller?
                            I think the seller part applies to handguns. Long arms aren't kept in records? right? wrong?
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                            • #15
                              tenpercentfirearms
                              Vendor/Retailer
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 13007

                              Originally posted by kel-tec-innovations
                              I think the seller part applies to handguns. Long arms aren't kept in records? right? wrong?
                              The seller part only applies on either long gun or handgun PPTs. All other transactions, the seller is unknown since it is a dealer transfer. Only in a PPT will they run the seller if after the buyer is denied.
                              www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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