Got a SOT status I didn't apply for.....

[technique]

Hey,

I applied for a SOT3, when I got my SOT it was a SOT2.
Would that happen because of my existing FFL07 status?

Any thoughts?

[ke6guj]

Yes, an 07FFL gets an 02SOT, not an 03SOT.

Special Occupational Tax Classes
Class Usage
Class 1 importer of NFA firearms
Class 2 manufacturer & dealer of NFA firearms
Class 3 dealer of NFA firearms

To get a Class 1 SOT status, you need an importer FFL, which includes Type 8, 11

To get a Class 2 SOT status, you need a manufacturer FFL, which includes Type 7, 10

To get a Class 3 SOT status, you need a dealer or manufacturer FFL which includes Type 1, 2, 7, 8, 9, 10 or 11

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal...al_Tax_Classes

hmm, that quote does show that an 07 could get an 03SOT, but why would you want to when you can get an 02SOT. With the 02SOT, you can make NFA items and deal in them, but with the 03SOT, you can only deal in them. And with them being the same price, why would you want an 03 instead of an 02?

[technique]

Just wanted to be able to do transfers...

We understood that with the 02 we could mfg...but didn't have the intent.
We understood the cost was the same...we still don't have an intent of mfg'ing.

[Saigon1965]

You got it now so start mannu -

[technique]

You got it now so start mannu -

haha...my buddy already asked if we should make an M16 tomorrow.
I just shook my head....good thing we are also licensed to mfg ammo...we're in doodoo if don't. That will kill our ammo dump....

[ke6guj]

Just wanted to be able to do transfers...

We understood that with the 02 we could mfg...but didn't have the intent.
We understood the cost was the same...we still don't have an intent of mfg'ing.

If you just wanted to do transfers, then why did you get an 07 over an 01? Or did you want to be able to make Title 1 stuff and weren't interested in making Title 2 stuff?

but since you have an 07FFL and and 02SOT, get cracking and make some MGs, SBRs, and suppressors, STAT.

[Gio]

Wow, nice! Makes me want to move up that way just to be near someone that can have all the cool toys

-Gio

[technique]

If you just wanted to do transfers, then why did you get an 07 over an 01? Or did you want to be able to make Title 1 stuff and weren't interested in making Title 2 stuff?

but since you have an 07FFL and and 02SOT, get cracking and make some MGs, SBRs, and suppressors, STAT.

Pretty much a CYA for assembling ARs and stuff with the 07....and the 03SOT for transfers on NFA. But ended up with the 02.

We have Gemtech, Gem State, and tactical innovations here in the same area.
We also have several good 07's that do AKs and stuff, tac innovations does ARs...there really isn't a need for another Mfg'er around here...but we stock and transfer the items they make, that was the goal anyway.

[THT]

Don't you need a demo letter to manufacture a MG though?

[ke6guj]

Don't you need a demo letter to manufacture a MG though?

nope, an 02SOT does not need a demo letter to manufacture any NFA items that his license covers. He can make everything except DDs.

He can go out into the shop and make a dozen MGs if he wanted to. He just has to report that to ATF via a Form 2. He doesn't need permission first. The 02SOT gives him permission, he just needs inform ATF that he did it.

Now, if you made a ton of MGs to play with and never sold any, they could possibly question it. But, if you make an sell ammo, then having made some cheap MGs so that you can QA some ammo should be OK.

[THT]

nope, an 02SOT does not need a demo letter to manufacture any NFA items that his license covers. He can make everything except DDs.

He can go out into the shop and make a dozen MGs if he wanted to. He just has to report that to ATF via a Form 2. He doesn't need permission first. The 02SOT gives him permission, he just needs inform ATF that he did it.

Now, if you made a ton of MGs to play with and never sold any, they could possibly question it. But, if you make an sell ammo, then having made some cheap MGs so that you can QA some ammo should be OK.

Interesting. What's the definition of "manufacture" ? Does it include converting a semi-auto lower receiver to select fire or does the SOT have to make the lower?

[ke6guj]

Interesting. What's the definition of "manufacture" ? Does it include converting a semi-auto lower receiver to select fire or does the SOT have to make the lower?

A manufacturer can take a semi-auto receiver and convert it to select fire by performing the required machining to bring it to full-auto spec, or make a new MG lower from scratch. they could take demilled receivers and weld them back together in full-auto configuration.