CERTIFICATE OF ELIGIBILITY

[apes]

To obtain a COE you have to be finger printed at a Live Scan station and pay $32 for the scan and $19 for the FBI fee etc. If I had all of this done when I applied for my CCW do I have to do it again. If the prints are digitized and the FBI check has been doee is that enough or do I have to do it all over again?

[code33]

Yes, you will have to do it again.
Even if you do it on the same machine, you'll get rolled again.
Take a look at the top of an LS Applicant form:

http://ag.ca.gov/fingerprints/forms/BCII_8016.pdf

[apes]

Is this a requirement for just handguns or all firearms, today Big 5 asked for my COE for a mauser and it was news to me...I thought just a C&R was needed........

[Cokebottle]

Is this a requirement for just handguns or all firearms, today Big 5 asked for my COE for a mauser and it was news to me...I thought just a C&R was needed........

The COE exempts you from the 10 day waiting period for C&Rs.

Other than that, the C&R is not needed to buy the Mauser from Big-5... that gun can be cash-and-carried on a PPT, but from a dealer, it's handled the same as any long gun unless you have a COE.
If you mentioned having a C&R when buying it, they would have asked for the COE to allow for the 10 day exemption. Without the COE, the C&R made no difference.

[apes]

So, then is the only advantage of a C&R is to be able to order C&R firearms/items from mail order companies and to get the occasional discount from "Brownells"?

[ke6guj]

The C&R (without the COE) does have a couple other uses in CA. One is that it can be used as Proof of Residency when purchasing handguns. In addtion, it can be used to satisfy the marksmanship requirement when buying Garands and M1 Carbines from CMP. And, when physically out-of-state, it can be used to purchase C&R firearms of any age, long guns and handguns.

[apes]

Thanks for answering all my questions:
If I have a current COE in hand ( which is basically a Background check ) do I still have to pay the DROS fees when purchaing a firearm from "Big 5" or another store. Isn't DROS basically a background check?
Thanks again
CP

[ke6guj]

Thanks for answering all my questions:
If I have a current COE in hand ( which is basically a Background check ) do I still have to pay the DROS fees when purchaing a firearm from "Big 5" or another store.

yes, even if you have the COE (and the C&R), you still have to pay DROS fees. DROS is dealer record of sale and it is always done, even if you have the C&R+COE. The C&R+COE would exempt you from the 10-day wait on C&R firearms, but the DROS is stll requred.

Isn't DROS basically a background check?
Thanks again
CP

they use the DROS to do a background check, and I'd assume that if you had a C&R+COE, and were able to take the firearm immediately, they'd still do a background check on you when the DROS was submitted. If there was a decline, they'd call the store and the store would tell them that you already had the firearm, and then CADOJ would have to deal with recovering the firearm if you were a prohibited person.

[Cokebottle]

Thanks for answering all my questions:
If I have a current COE in hand ( which is basically a Background check ) do I still have to pay the DROS fees when purchaing a firearm from "Big 5" or another store. Isn't DROS basically a background check?
Thanks again
CP

It is a background "check/verification", but at the same time, it is only as good as it's age.
The background check at time of purchase confirms that you did not become a prohibited person between the time the COE was issued and the date of purchase.