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  • Capt. Speirs
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 1232

    White 4473

    I have the latest 4473 according to the form # 5300.9 and date "revised August 2008". Even if you go on the ATF web site and dowload the PDF of the latest 4473, it is exactly the same form...but mine are white. Can I use them?
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  • #2
    jksupplyco
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 1623

    Should be yellow.. The new ones as of January last year were yellow. There was a short period of time when the ATF couldn't keep up with the printing requests, and I was advised to make copies, on yellow paper. I've never seen the current form on white paper. I'd make a call to confirm before I used them.

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    • #3
      SDProtection
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 94

      Originally posted by jksupplyco
      Should be yellow.. The new ones as of January last year were yellow.
      I ordered 500 of them from ATF and recieved them a few months back (the whole pamphlet type) and they are white.
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      • #4
        ugimports
        Vendor/Retailer
        • Jun 2009
        • 6250

        Originally posted by SDProtection
        I ordered 500 of them from ATF and recieved them a few months back (the whole pamphlet type) and they are white.
        +1

        Same here, everything I got was white. Shrink wrapped and all. When I had my ATF interview she showed me a white one when walking me through it.
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        • #5
          halifax
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 4440

          Originally posted by SDProtection
          I ordered 500 of them from ATF and recieved them a few months back (the whole pamphlet type) and they are white.
          Correct. White is what they are sending out currently but other than color they are no different than the yellow August 2008 (5300.9) with side binding.
          Last edited by halifax; 02-05-2010, 5:37 AM.
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          • #6
            tenpercentfirearms
            Vendor/Retailer
            • Apr 2005
            • 13007

            Originally posted by jksupplyco
            Should be yellow.. The new ones as of January last year were yellow. There was a short period of time when the ATF couldn't keep up with the printing requests, and I was advised to make copies, on yellow paper. I've never seen the current form on white paper. I'd make a call to confirm before I used them.
            FUD! Damn nor-calers.

            The idiots went and start putting them on white again. I have both and my auditors confirmed it and they rolled their eyes too!
            www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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            • #7
              Capt. Speirs
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2008
              • 1232

              Thanks for the replies, my customer will be here in 2 hours. Sometimes this business can be frustrating, but worth it.
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              • #8
                jksupplyco
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 1623

                Ha! Learn something new everyday.. I ordered a crap-load of yellow ones, and havent needed anymore, so I guess thats why!

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                • #9
                  kemasa
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 10706

                  There is always the e4473 :-).
                  Kemasa.
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                  • #10
                    Capt. Speirs
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 1232

                    Originally posted by kemasa
                    There is always the e4473 :-).
                    Yeah, I think I will use e4473 instead. I was at Office Depot to check out fire resistant file cabinets...$1,119.00 for one 4 drawer, 1 hour at 350 degrees F. Is this what they really cost, heck I could by another safe for that and it has more room and is more fire resistant, and more secure to boot.
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                    714-532-4867
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                    • #11
                      kemasa
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 10706

                      Hmmm, I was joking. I found the e4473 a pain to use, plus you have to have the computer accessible for the customer. You can just print out the form, including the instructions, but I find it cheaper and easier to order the forms from the BATF.

                      Does anyone actually use the e4473?
                      Last edited by kemasa; 02-06-2010, 9:33 AM.
                      Kemasa.
                      False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                      Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

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                      • #12
                        ugimports
                        Vendor/Retailer
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 6250

                        Originally posted by kemasa
                        Hmmm, I was joking. I found the e4473 a pain to use, plus you have to have the computer accessible for the customer. You can just print out the form, including the instructions, but I find it cheaper and easier to order the forms from the BATF.

                        Does anyone actually use the e4473?
                        I use my own version of the e4773. Most of my customers like it and it's not as cumbersome as the ATF software. After it prints out you wouldn't be able to tell the difference as to which software program generated it.

                        My setup might be different then yours. I actually have 2 computers set up. The one I do all my crap on and the 2nd just for the customer to 4473 on. In the future I'm going to have it so they can also fill out their safe affidavit on it as well.
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                        • #13
                          kemasa
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 10706

                          That sounds like an improvement, perhaps you should contact the BATF and convince them to use your software (yeah, you have a better chance of winning the lottery).
                          Kemasa.
                          False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                          Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

                          Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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                          • #14
                            TripleT
                            Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 348

                            I've been using e4473 for some time now without any real difficulties. If people are uncomfortable with entering their info I'll let them do a manual form but I really like the fact that at least I can read the 4473 when it prints out.

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                            • #15
                              ugimports
                              Vendor/Retailer
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 6250

                              Originally posted by TripleT
                              I've been using e4473 for some time now without any real difficulties. If people are uncomfortable with entering their info I'll let them do a manual form but I really like the fact that at least I can read the 4473 when it prints out.
                              Agreed, I give the option for them to write as well.
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