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  • crazy
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 1120

    Tax on DROS

    I was charged tax on the DROS for a stripped AR lower. I don't think this is correct. Anyone have an answer for me?
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  • #2
    Shane916
    Calguns Addict
    • Feb 2006
    • 5004

    Originally posted by crazy
    I was charged tax on the DROS for a stripped AR lower. I don't think this is correct. Anyone have an answer for me?
    DROS is NOT taxed.



    40. May I charge sales tax on the DROS fees?

    No. On January 1, 1999, the state Board of Equalization ruled that the DROS fees are not subject to retail sales tax. Firearms dealers licensed pursuant to Penal Code section 12071 shall not charge sales tax on the DROS fees. Questions regarding firearms transfer fees can be directed to the DOJ through this website or by calling (916) 263-4887. Questions regarding sales tax can be made to the California Board of Equalization at its website www.boe.ca.gov.

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    • #3
      professionalcoyotehunter
      Banned
      • Nov 2008
      • 12805

      Should not have happened.

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      • #4
        Cokebottle
        Señor Member
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2009
        • 32373

        Ditto.
        Tax is not to be charged on labor, services (other than utilities, as you are receiving a "product"), or fees....


        ...unless you are the State of California, then you can charge tax on criminal fines and call it a penalty assessment, and tax on vehicle registration and call it a licensing fee, and on underpayment of income tax withholdings and call it a surcharge
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        • #5
          crazy
          Senior Member
          • May 2009
          • 1120

          Thank you for the speedy replies and including the section from BOE.
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          Things I have for sale.

          https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1646789

          https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1645958

          https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1645863

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          • #6
            TripleT
            Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 348

            Don't be confused on sales tax on the OLL. That is legal.

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            • #7
              crazy
              Senior Member
              • May 2009
              • 1120

              Originally posted by TripleT
              Don't be confused on sales tax on the OLL. That is legal.

              I know. They charged me tax on the lower and DROS.
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              Things I have for sale.

              https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1646789

              https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1645958

              https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1645863

              Legal disclaimer: Opinions are like buttholes. Everyone has one, including me.

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              • #8
                5150Marcelo
                Calguns Addict
                • Mar 2008
                • 7681

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                • #9
                  ugimports
                  Vendor/Retailer
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 6250

                  Originally posted by Cokebottle
                  Ditto.
                  Tax is not to be charged on labor, services (other than utilities, as you are receiving a "product"), or fees....


                  ...unless you are the State of California, then you can charge tax on criminal fines and call it a penalty assessment, and tax on vehicle registration and call it a licensing fee, and on underpayment of income tax withholdings and call it a surcharge
                  Tax is also to be charged on FFL transfer fees according to the BOE even though it is just a service.
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                  • #10
                    halifax
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 4440

                    Originally posted by ugimports
                    Tax is also to be charged on FFL transfer fees according to the BOE even though it is just a service.
                    When is Labor Taxable

                    Services related to a taxable sale are taxable Your charges for services related to a taxable sale are generally taxable. This is true whether you itemize the charges or include them in the price of the product. For example, suppose your taxable sale of a computer program includes 20 hours of training, and the customer cannot buy the program without the training services. The training is taxable as part of the sale whether you show a separate charge for it on your invoice or charge one amount for the program and training together.
                    Jim


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                    • #11
                      crazy
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2009
                      • 1120

                      DROS is not labor.
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                      Things I have for sale.

                      https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1646789

                      https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1645958

                      https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1645863

                      Legal disclaimer: Opinions are like buttholes. Everyone has one, including me.

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                      • #12
                        Lancear15
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 2629

                        Originally posted by halifax
                        Exactly, a lot of people are unaware that a lot of labor is taxable. Even some repair labor (contrary the general rule given in your link). When in doubt seek a CPA. A good accountant more them pays for themselves.
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                        • #13
                          ugimports
                          Vendor/Retailer
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 6250

                          Originally posted by halifax


                          The BOE gave me specific information. See my Q&A with them in the linked thread.

                          ETA: I just realized you were pointing out the same thing with the quote you had below that.
                          Last edited by ugimports; 01-13-2010, 1:33 PM.
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                          • #14
                            kemasa
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 10706

                            In the case of firearms, the FFL fee is subject to sales tax if the firearm also is. In the case of a PPT, there is no sales tax, but in the case of a firearm coming from out of state from a business, sales tax needs to be collected on the firearm and the FFL fee.

                            It does not have to make sense, it is just the way it is.
                            Kemasa.
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                            • #15
                              TripleT
                              Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 348

                              And to be double clear (or triple or whatever) the 25.00 dros fee (or 35.00 ppt fee) is never taxable while anything added to do the transfer in the form of a fee is. ie, if a FFL charges 25.00 for the dros and 20.00 for the transfer fee, only the transfer fee (20.00) is taxed, not the dros (25.00). This is irrespective of what the tax would be on the item itself. (which doesn't seem to be in contention) The only exception would be if the firearm came from a private party then none of the transaction, dros or FFL fee is taxed. Correct ???

                              Damn, I hope that makes sense...
                              Last edited by TripleT; 01-13-2010, 1:47 PM.

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