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  • halifax
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 4440

    Doing PPT and CFLC

    So, let's say I drive out of town to purchase a handgun PPT. While doing the DROS, I present my FFL/CFD letter and claim the 10 wait excemption. This handgun is for my personal collection (never goes into my A/D book). Does the other dealer still need to do the CFLC letter?
    Jim


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    ke6guj
    Moderator
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Nov 2003
    • 23725

    Originally posted by Quiet
    CFLC only applies to out-of-state FFL dealers shipping a firearm to a CA FFL dealer.
    the CFLC applies to all dealer to dealer transfers, in-state and out-of-state
    Jack



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    • #3
      OCArmory
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 1321

      No a CFLC is not needed because you are not transferring it to inventory you are purchasing it outright.
      Mike

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        halifax
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 4440

        OK, thanks.
        Jim


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          TripleT
          Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 348

          The way I see it, the selling dealer does the dros, no cflc. You are going to do the dros = cflc. Same idea, just a different way of looking at it.

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          • #6
            halifax
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 4440

            I was thinking that if I give the dealer my CFD to claim the 10 wait exemption, he might assume the CFLC was needed. That is all.
            Jim


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            • #7
              TripleT
              Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 348

              Originally posted by halifax
              I was thinking that if I give the dealer my CFD to claim the 10 wait exemption, he might assume the CFLC was needed. That is all.
              Good point. CFD to claim exemption, I have not run into (still fairly new) but you're right, a dealer could think, "why am I using a cfd without a cflc"?

              I'll add another one, sorta' along the same lines. What would be the proper procedure for a consignment long gun from one dealer to another dealer, for the dealer's personal inventory ? PPT, Dros, A & D's, CFD exemption etc. ?

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                halifax
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 4440

                Originally posted by TripleT
                Good point. CFD to claim exemption, I have not run into (still fairly new) but you're right, a dealer could think, "why am I using a cfd without a cflc"?

                I'll add another one, sorta' along the same lines. What would be the proper procedure for a consignment long gun from one dealer to another dealer, for the dealer's personal inventory ? PPT, Dros, A & D's, CFD exemption etc. ?
                So, one dealer is buying another dealer's consignment for personal use? Seems to me the easiest way would be to ship or hand deliver it as a dealer-to-dealer transfer (CFLC) and let him worry about it.
                Last edited by halifax; 11-18-2009, 7:54 AM.
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                • #9
                  TripleT
                  Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 348

                  Originally posted by halifax
                  So, one dealer is buying another dealer's consignment for personal use? Seems to me the easiest way would be to ship it as a dealer-to-dealer transfer (CFLC) and let him worry about it.
                  Yup, but what is the correct way to document the transfer into the purchasing dealer's personal inventory. To make it a bit more interesting, what if the purchasing dealer picks up the long gun, as in not shipped ? Keep in mind it is a long gun. I have a suspicion on how it should or could be done but I'd really like to hear from other FFL's, with more experience than I.
                  Last edited by TripleT; 11-18-2009, 7:54 AM.

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                  • #10
                    kemasa
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 10706

                    If the firearm is not on the certified list and the seller is not willing to travel, then the buyer, who is a FFL has to travel. It has to be done as a PPT in order to be transferred. Since it is being done as a PPT at the other FFL's business, that FFL is not shipping the firearm, so no CFLC letter is required. The waiting period does not matter, nor does the reason for the waiting period exemption.

                    Kemasa.
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