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  • OCArmory
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 1321

    DOJ just called

    Well I got the call from the DOJ. It's time for my very first inspection. Any suggestions or recommendations?
    Mike
  • #2
    halifax
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 4440

    Signage (all, including business license with the required dealer verbage).

    Check DROS Forms for:

    Date/time of delivery

    Signatures

    Fingerprints

    Comment w/lock make model or "Safe Affidavit on File"

    All the firearms that should be in your safe are really in your safe with the required warning tag attached

    My inspector didn't really check any ID copies except the one I had for LEO exemption.

    Good Luck
    Last edited by halifax; 09-29-2009, 3:53 PM. Reason: spelling
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    • #3
      eltee
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 897

      If you have personal guns or guns not for sale co-mingled with inventory, be sure to tag them "Not for Sale."

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      • #4
        Gijoe
        Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 126

        good luck

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        • #5
          jksupplyco
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 1623

          Its not too bad.. I've only had Analysts up here, and its gone smoothly. halifax pretty much covered it all..

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          • #6
            remington
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Nov 2008
            • 588

            Mike, is it Bob Berthold? He just came by about 2 months ago at my place (Home business). I will give you call later today.

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            Corona, Ca
            NRA Life Member
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            Gun Control is like treating the symptom, not the disease. Gun laws only restrict people who obey the law.

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            • #7
              PRKArms
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 799

              It doesn't hurt to have your lawyer on hand 'visiting socially' during the inspection.
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              • #8
                PatriotnMore
                Calguns Addict
                • Nov 2007
                • 7068

                Great advice, the cost for one to be on hand just in case, could be cheap if something goes amiss.


                Originally posted by PRKArms
                It doesn't hurt to have your lawyer on hand 'visiting socially' during the inspection.
                ‎"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions."
                --James Madison
                'Letter to Edmund Pendleton', 1792

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                • #9
                  C&W Reloading
                  Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 133

                  I had Bob Berthold out to my home business 4 months back and it went very smooth. He checked everything halifax mentioned. make sure all your "white" (state) paper is in order. Bob was very professional and seems like a good pro gun guy. He saw a few different ones listed in my A&D book that generated some good conversations. Cross your tee's and dot your I's:
                  Bill Edison. 909-331-7652
                  Located in IE (91752) 20 Min east of Ontario Airport.

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                  • #10
                    oaklander
                    Banned
                    • May 2006
                    • 11095

                    +1

                    Originally posted by PRKArms
                    It doesn't hurt to have your lawyer on hand 'visiting socially' during the inspection.

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                    • #11
                      anthonyca
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2008
                      • 6316

                      Originally posted by PRKArms
                      It doesn't hurt to have your lawyer on hand 'visiting socially' during the inspection.
                      The older I get, the more I learn, the harder I work, the more I agree with that statement.
                      https://www.facebook.com/pages/Union...70812799700206

                      Originally posted by Wherryj
                      I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?

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                      • #12
                        vinniesguns
                        Junior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 39

                        What are the warning tags you are supposed to have on the guns for sale? Where do you get them?
                        " THE SECOND AMENDMENT, IT'S YOUR RIGHT"
                        Vinnie's Guns
                        www.vinniesguns.com
                        Lifetime NRA member since 1989

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                        • #13
                          kemasa
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 10706

                          The child safety warning tags are available from the CA DOJ.

                          Kemasa.
                          False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                          Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

                          Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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                          • #14
                            tenpercentfirearms
                            Vendor/Retailer
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 13007

                            Originally posted by vinniesguns
                            What are the warning tags you are supposed to have on the guns for sale? Where do you get them?
                            Note, my understanding is you do not have to have them on the guns for sale, but that they must be delivered with the firearms. Now I haven't had a real DOJ audit yet to confirm this, but if I remember when they sent the heavies down to intimidate us, they did mention they liked that we used those tags to mark guns for people. So when I sell a lower, I write the customer last name on that DOJ tag and rubber band it through the receiver extension hole.

                            For everything that usually gets a box, we just throw one in the box when they go to deliver it.

                            Anyone want to show PC for what we are supposed to do. I need to get off this computer and get to Geocaching.
                            www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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                            • #15
                              kemasa
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 10706

                              It is supposed to be attached to the trigger guard of the firearm and it only needs to be there when it is delivered to the customer. The law does not say the trigger guard, but it does say that the AG determines how it is to be affixed and I recall something saying that it is to be attached to the trigger guard.


                              29 What are the firearm warning label and safety device requirements?

                              Each firearm sold by firearms dealers must be accompanied by a child safety warning label.

                              12088.3. (a) The packaging of any firearm and any descriptive
                              materials that accompany any firearm sold or transferred in this
                              state, or delivered for sale in this state, by any licensed
                              manufacturer, or licensed dealer, shall bear a label containing the
                              following warning statement:
                              WARNING
                              Children are attracted to and can operate firearms that can cause
                              severe injuries or death.
                              Prevent child access by always keeping guns locked away and unloaded
                              when not in use. If you keep a loaded firearm where a child obtains
                              and improperly uses it, you may be fined or sent to prison.
                              A yellow triangle containing an exclamation mark shall appear
                              immediately before the word "Warning" on the label.
                              (b) If the firearm is sold or transferred without accompanying
                              packaging, the warning label or notice shall be affixed to the
                              firearm itself by a method to be prescribed by regulation of the
                              Attorney General.
                              (c) The warning statement required under subdivisions (a) and (b)
                              shall be:
                              (1) Displayed in its entirety on the principal display panel of
                              the firearm's package, and on any descriptive materials that
                              accompany the firearm.
                              (2) Displayed in both English and Spanish in conspicuous and
                              legible type in contrast by typography, layout, or color with other
                              printed matter on that package or descriptive materials in a manner
                              consistent with Part 1500.121 of Title 16, of the Code of Federal
                              Regulations, or successor regulations thereto.
                              Kemasa.
                              False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                              Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

                              Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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