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  • 1923mack
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 588

    80%

    I hear the term 80% used with owner built 1911's. Can someone explain to me what the 80% means? History, or parts required or?
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    GSequoia
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 1356

    It means the frame is not complete (only 80%% complete or less) so by legal definition it is not a firearm. An 80% frame will require the buyer to finish some millwork, drilling, cutting, shaping, etc. It will not require an FFL to purchase the frame as it is not a legal firearm (the buyer is legally the one who built the gun, not the company who created the 80% frame).
    Alot isn't a word and allot isn't the word you think it is.

    I'd really like a Colt 1903 frame, bad finish okay!
    I'm also looking for a good deal on a 1911 frame or two for budget/spare parts builds.

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    • #3
      1923mack
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 588

      I had guessed that it was an incomplete frame, but is there a better definition of what is an 80% frame? 3 people will see 3 different percentages if there is no definition.

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      • #4
        ke6guj
        Moderator
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Nov 2003
        • 23725

        thats the problem. 80% is not a legal term, but just a term that people use to decribe an approximate level of completion. ATF looks at a specific receiver and says that it is either a firearm or not. There is no written standard on where that line is at, just whatever ATF rules at that time. And previous ATF rulings can be superceded by a new ruling at any time.
        Jack



        Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

        No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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