Dealy of transfer question

[ledman]

I have been purchasing firearms for over 20 years, NEVER had one hiccup. I hold a current C&R 03 FFL. I recently purchased from a friend at work, a 53Russian SKS and a Mossberg 590 shotgun. I have not purchased a weapon in over 4 years. We did a DROS at Turners in Orange CA. Somehow Turners had my old number and was not able to contact me. I go to pick up my firearms today, and there is a delay notice. This is my first ever PPT that has been DROS'ed. Everything else I did was with my C&R for C&R guns only. Maybe thats why? becasueit's a PPT?
I call the CA DOJ and they want a copy of my DD-214. SO, I faxed one over as requested. No what? Will they call me, or Turners to release the firearms? Is there a time limit for the CA DOJ to respond? If they do not respond, can Turners release the firearms legally to me after a certain amount of time?
I just wondered, why? I do not have a dishonorable discharge. I have no criminal record. The guy are Turners said it could just be a random check, and not to worry about it as long as I do not have a dishonorable discharge.

Just curious if any of you have insight on this.

Thanks in advance!

[Fjold]

Someone with your same name got a Dishonorable. They should be able to verify it from SSNs.

[ledman]

Someone with your same name got a Dishonorable. They should be able to verify it from SSNs.

Ahhh...OK, that would explain it, they must have gotten it recently, or within the last 4 years or so as it's never been an issue. Even the BATF did not require a copy of my DD-214 when I got my 03 FFL.
I forgot to mention, I was discharged in Nov. 1990
Thanks for your quick answer!

[ke6guj]

Somehow Turners had my old number and was not able to contact me.

that was one thing I didn't like about Turners and their computer system. They had my old number in the system for ~10 years and every time I bought a new firearm, I'd tell them the number had changed and they would just handright the new number on the receipt. I'd tell them to change in the computer and they said they would. they never did. I finally got the manager to change it in the computer while he was ringing up an S/O for me , but for ~10 years, they kept the old number in the system.

[ledman]

What is funny, on the shotgun form, they had all my old info, on the form for the SKS, they had all my new info...my address is the same, except for a different Apt number, as we moved within our complex. Maybe that threw the DOJ off?

And yes! Thats exactly what they did, they wrote it on the form, and said he would check it out in the computer, lol

[tenpercentfirearms]

They usually don't take long to get that squared away. Basically they should get it firgured out and I believe the DOJ will call you back. If not, they will definitely notify Turners and you can call them back until they say you are legit or ask to speak to someone you figure is squared away and ask them to call you back when you get cleared.

I have had delays that last only three hours.

[ledman]

They usually don't take long to get that squared away. Basically they should get it firgured out and I believe the DOJ will call you back. If not, they will definitely notify Turners and you can call them back until they say you are legit or ask to speak to someone you figure is squared away and ask them to call you back when you get cleared.

I have had delays that last only three hours.

Yeah, I actually had the DOJ call me back twice today. Once to confirm they got my DD-214. Then, a different person called me and They received my paperwork, and said it shouldn't be a problem, for some reason, my file was "marked" by the FBI, I guess they did not have any record of my type of discharge from the Military, and wanted to make sure I was not a Dishonorable discharge. They said the same, it could take 48 hours to update in the system.
I called Turners, and spoke with Fred, a good guy, one that seems he knows what he is doing, as he has worked there awhile, and told him the deal, so he is on the look out for it. Also the DOJ told me, they(Turners) should call me right away when they get the green light. So, now I wait, more.

[dshortone]

Fred is one of the most honest guys I've dealt with. Fantastic guy!

The DOJ usually takes a day or two to catch up with the dealer and give them a green light. You should be golden by Thursday!

[ledman]

Fred is one of the most honest guys I've dealt with. Fantastic guy!

The DOJ usually takes a day or two to catch up with the dealer and give them a green light. You should be golden by Thursday!

Yeah, I hope so! I have NEVER had this happen to me, in the 19 years since I have been discharge. It is making me stress out that they will find some stupid reason to deny me! lol

[ledman]

I have DROS'ed 2 other long guns in PPT the past 2 days, one today, one yesterday, while this other one is on delay, it would be funny if these others went through fine while I am still waiting for the first deal, lol.

[bravoecho]

I too am in a "delay" with a Garand from CMP. It would have shipped yesterday had NICS check not been in delay status. Now, I have to go through some "appeal" process. It is strange that in previous months, I have purchased firearms with the NICS check being quickly approved in addition to receiving my 03 collectors license. And now a "delay" with CMP's check. What a bummer!!

[cousinkix1953]

Do these DoJ beauracrats really think that the BATFE would issue an 03 C&R to somebody with a DD? It took you longer to get that piece of paper and you know that the feds ran a more extensive background check on you before. Sacramento has done little to disarm the criminals; so they make themselves look useful by harassing law abiding citizens instead...

[ledman]

Do these DoJ beauracrats really think that the BATFE would issue an 03 C&R to somebody with a DD? It took you longer to get that piece of paper and you know that the feds ran a more extensive background check on you before. Sacramento has done little to disarm the criminals; so they make themselves look useful by harassing law abiding citizens instead...

EXACTLY! I even told the guy Chris that called me from the DOJ, that I have a current C&R 03 FFL, as I have NO criminal record. SO, as of today, I am still on delay. He told me it "should'nt be a problem", meaning to get the delay released but he said it was not up to him, he just collects the data and turns it all in.
I have not heard from the other 2 dealers I have guns DROSing through right now. I would think I would have heard from them if there was a problem.
I did not put my SSN this time on the form, so I dunno.
if they wanted to deny me, I am sure they would have done it by now.

[ledman]

I too am in a "delay" with a Garand from CMP. It would have shipped yesterday had NICS check not been in delay status. Now, I have to go through some "appeal" process. It is strange that in previous months, I have purchased firearms with the NICS check being quickly approved in addition to receiving my 03 collectors license. And now a "delay" with CMP's check. What a bummer!!

I had a similiar problem, if you REALLY want your stuff, do it. It took about 4-6 months, then finally out of the blue, I go the clearacne from the BATF/DOJ that I was eligble, BUT, the cert was only good for 30 days rom date of issuance, SO, meedless to say, I did not have the money to buy at that time, so I got some CMP garands with my C&R 03 FFL from a private party, for just a fraction more than what the CMP wanted.

GL!

[Wonderwhippet]

If this transaction isn't completed within 30 days, don't be surprised if you have to start the DROS all over again.