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  • Megalomegalodon
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 798

    PPT - seller no longer esident

    I have a friend who moved to Nevada but has some firearms still in here in California. They were never registered in Nevada. He wants to sell them here in California. I was told by an FFL that it cannot be done since he is no longer a California resident, and the firearms are registered in California. He does have a valid Nevada ID. Can someone clarify this for me.
    NRA Endowment Member

  • #2
    hermosabeach
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2009
    • 19114

    PPT is between 2 residents of the same state and both at the FFL together... so no interstate shipping

    Sorry - ATF does not recognize snowbirds....


    So a Resident of NV cannot PPT to CA resident...


    It would need to be an on roster FFL transfer.... some FFL allow walk ins.... other require shipping....
    Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

    Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

    Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

    Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
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    • #3
      Megalomegalodon
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2014
      • 798

      Originally posted by hermosabeach
      PPT is between 2 residents of the same state and both at the FFL together... so no interstate shipping

      Sorry - ATF does not recognize snowbirds....


      So a Resident of NV cannot PPT to CA resident...


      It would need to be an on roster FFL transfer.... some FFL allow walk ins.... other require shipping....
      Thank you for the clarification.
      NRA Endowment Member

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      • #4
        Quiet
        retired Goon
        • Mar 2007
        • 30241

        PPT = face to face transfer between CA residents facilitated by a CA FFL dealer.
        ~If one of the parties involves is a non-resident of CA, then the transfer is not considered a PPT.
        ~If the firearm is shipped, then the transfer is not considered a PPT.


        For a PPT, the transferor needs to have a valid CA DL/ID or valid Mil ID with current permanent orders for CA.

        If the transferor does not have a valid CA DL/ID or valid Mil ID with current permanent orders for CA, then the CA DROS system will not allow the transfer to be conducted as a PPT.

        Since the transfer is not considered a PPT, the CA FFL dealer facilitating the transfer can legally charge any amount of money to conduct the transfer.

        In addition, if the CA legal firearm is a handgun, then it must be listed on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale or be exempt from it.
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        "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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        • #5
          taperxz
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Feb 2010
          • 19395

          Originally posted by Megalomegalodon
          I have a friend who moved to Nevada but has some firearms still in here in California. They were never registered in Nevada. He wants to sell them here in California. I was told by an FFL that it cannot be done since he is no longer a California resident, and the firearms are registered in California. He does have a valid Nevada ID. Can someone clarify this for me.
          Guns aren't registered in Nevada like in most all states in this country.

          Registration of firearms is mostly a CA thing.

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          • #6
            Quiet
            retired Goon
            • Mar 2007
            • 30241

            Originally posted by taperxz
            Guns aren't registered in Nevada like in most all states in this country.

            Registration of firearms is mostly a CA thing.
            From 01-01-1948 to 06-01-2015, handguns were required to be registered in Clark County (Nevada) with the LVMPD.
            ^Due to this change in NV laws, LVMPD was required to destroy all registration records by 01-01-2016.
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            "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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            • #7
              taperxz
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2010
              • 19395

              Originally posted by Quiet
              From 01-01-1948 to 06-01-2015, handguns were required to be registered in Clark County (Nevada) with the LVMPD.
              ^Due to this change in NV laws, LVMPD was required to destroy all registration records by 01-01-2016.
              Interesting! I did not know that.

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              • #8
                tenpercentfirearms
                Vendor/Retailer
                • Apr 2005
                • 13007

                Did you know the CA DOJ seems to not care who the gun is currently registered to in a PPT? However, it is clear a PPT must involve two CA ID/DL (I am ignoring the military exemption) to be a PPT. Otherwise it is a regular transfer subject to the handgun roster and the 1 in 30 days for all guns.
                www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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