Open Letter to FFL's

[AreWeNotMen?]

Dear Federal Firearms Licensees:

No matter how much some of you do not like the requirement to do private party transfers, please politely tolerate the process as such is necessary for our culture to survive in CA. And, as you wise ones know, it can often generate return customers when we are actually going to buy related products and services.

That said, I implore you to not follow the cavalier attitude and conduct of the owner of Susan's Armory in Rocklin, CA by excessively coon-fingering a customer's firearm without explicit permission, and certainly not cocking and dry firing it (followed by a weak "sorry") - especially when it is a vintage .22 rimfire.

Thank you,

Every Gun Owner in CA

[SkyHawk]

That said, I implore you to not follow the cavalier attitude and conduct of the owner of Susan's Armory in Rocklin, CA

Are they still open? A friend told me very recently it seemed like they were shut down...

[taperxz]

Dear Federal Firearms Licensees:

No matter how much some of you do not like the requirement to do private party transfers, please politely tolerate the process as such is necessary for our culture to survive in CA. And, as you wise ones know, it can often generate return customers when we are actually going to buy related products and services.

That said, I implore you to not follow the cavalier attitude and conduct of the owner of Susan's Armory in Rocklin, CA by excessively coon-fingering a customer's firearm without explicit permission, and certainly not cocking and dry firing it (followed by a weak "sorry") - especially when it is a vintage .22 rimfire.

Thank you,

Every Gun Owner in CA

Dear entitled gun owners. Instead of complaining about illegal requirements put on private business to perform services that negatively affect the bottom line of businesses, go out and tell your friends and family how harmful the California State Government is to freedoms that other states enjoy and how our repressive California government is to its citizens and the need to remove and replace those in state government.

[Nardo1895]

At the risk of re-igniting this controversary. I find it interesting that many FFLs, who know the cost/benefit of advertising and marketing, believe PPTs hurt their bottom line. Many non-FFLs try and make the case they are wrong. Logically, it seems like the FFLs would know better what is or is not good for their bottom line. But that?s not really the point. The point is that it should be a choice each FFL is allowed to make. If the non-FFLs are correct, the market will decide who survives and who does not.

I?m home based and I do PPTs primarily as a service to my regular customers. I do not keep inventory so no one is going to buy ?extra stuff? because they are doing a PPT with me. Maybe I?ll get their next purchase, maybe not. I personally don?t like the idea of being required to perform PPTs. Theoretically, someone can show up at my door and demand I do a PPT. Two strangers showing up at my house ? not a good idea.

I don?t understand why non-FFLs get so wrapped up about this. If they are correct in their believes, and FFLs were allowed to set their own PPT prices and availability, the FFLs who do PPTs for a reasonable price will prosper and the ones that don?t will go out of business. Free market capitalism at work.

Taperxz makes a good point. 24/7 ? 365 video surveillance is going to affect our bottom line and maybe put some of us out of business. The new excise tax is going to increase the cost of buying firearms in CA. Liability insurance requirements will add significantly to small business FFLs' fixed costs. Its getting harder and harder to stay in business.

As to an FFL mishandling a customer?s transfer firearm, while I am sure that happens, I suspect its much less common than customers who do it to a FFL?s inventory. It?s a fair point, but it works both ways.

[Tyke8319]

Dear Federal Firearms Licensees:

No matter how much some of you do not like the requirement to do private party transfers, please politely tolerate the process as such is necessary for our culture to survive in CA. And, as you wise ones know, it can often generate return customers when we are actually going to buy related products and services.

That said, I implore you to not follow the cavalier attitude and conduct of the owner of Susan's Armory in Rocklin, CA by excessively coon-fingering a customer's firearm without explicit permission, and certainly not cocking and dry firing it (followed by a weak "sorry") - especially when it is a vintage .22 rimfire.

Thank you,

Every Gun Owner in CA

As another small point, just because a person has an FFL doesn't mean he/she has do perform PPT's. I no longer transfer firearms and therefore I no longer do PPT';s.

[2761377]

the fact that an owner of a durable good must, by state law, use a third party to transfer possession of that good obviates the "free market" argument.

there is no free market in that scenario.

[Nardo1895]

the fact that an owner of a durable good must, by state law, use a third party to transfer possession of that good obviates the "free market" argument.

there is no free market in that scenario.

The only person in the transaction that isn't allowed to participate in the free market is the FFL.

And not just firearms. What about vehicles? Houses and land? Lots of examples of free market transactions that cannot be completed without some sort of government approval and cost.

My point about the free market is (1) you can choose not to do business with a FFL who's PPT practices you don't like, and (2) if FFLs were allowed to charge "market rate" for a PPT, the market would determine who stays in business and who doesn't.

Its really a moot point. The law isn't going to change. Some FFLs will grumble about PPTs and some won't. Choose wisely

[2761377]

a free market would mean the seller does not need government approval. the examples cited are not free market transactions.

there is clearly a misunderstanding of the meaning of "free market".

and unless the FFL had his license before 1991 he knew full well the responsibilties that come such a license in California.