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  • freewayrandy
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2019
    • 45

    If a husband passes......

    does his wife have to get all his weapons transferred to her name?
  • #2
    Tyke8319
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Nov 2013
    • 2105

    No. If they are legally married, CA is a community property state.
    American soldier by choice. Made in America by the Grace of God.

    So, now it is ironic that the State whittles away at the right of its citizens to defend themselves from the possible oppression of their State.
    Judge Roger T. Benitez
    LCM's ruled legal 3/29/2019

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    • #3
      CalifEd
      Member
      • Mar 2019
      • 210

      Because Komifornia gun laws change at the twist in the Legislators' shorts, I would suggest that you have a will, or trust, made that specifically covers what you/husband want to happen to his weapons especially if they are rare, grandfathered exemptions or special permitted.
      Make sure the attorney is familiar with current gun laws too, your business lawyer may be good at contracts but know nothing of gun laws.

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      • #4
        CAL.BAR
        CGSSA OC Chapter Leader
        • Nov 2007
        • 5632

        Originally posted by Tyke8319
        No. If they are legally married, CA is a community property state.
        Well, quite true,we are a community property state, firearms have both a registered owner and a legal owner. (a bit like a car) SO... while the wife has an ownership interest in the firearms, she is NOT the registered owner. I believe that she is technically supposed to file the OP LAW form to get them all registered under her name.

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        • #5
          Librarian
          Admin and Poltergeist
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2005
          • 44680

          Originally posted by CAL.BAR
          Well, quite true,we are a community property state, firearms have both a registered owner and a legal owner. (a bit like a car) SO... while the wife has an ownership interest in the firearms, she is NOT the registered owner. I believe that she is technically supposed to file the OP LAW form to get them all registered under her name.
          Unfortunately, in CA guns are different from jewelry and cars and art - so the above is correct.
          ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

          Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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          • #6
            Nardo1895
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2016
            • 965

            Originally posted by Librarian
            Unfortunately, in CA guns are different from jewelry and cars and art - so the above is correct.
            While that is true it may be a requirement without a consequence. It sort of depends on what the wife wants to do with them. If she intends to keep any of them she should re-register them in her name.

            If she is intent on selling them, she doesn't need to register them. She may be in technical violation of the law by not sending in the Op Law form to put them in her name, but as long as she legally sells or transfers them through a dealer there is no (apparent) consequence. I have helped two widows dispose of their husband's collections. Some were sold as PPTs, some as dealer transfers and some out of state. If there was going to be an issue, I think it it would have showed up on the PPTs.

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            • #7
              taperxz
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2010
              • 19395

              Originally posted by Librarian
              Unfortunately, in CA guns are different from jewelry and cars and art - so the above is correct.
              The state would also need to prove that the husband didn?t give his wife those guns many moons ago. Except for anything registered in his name since long guns weren?t registered till 2014.

              I?m not suggesting any illegal activity either. He may very well have given her guns pre registration requirements.

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              • #8
                Librarian
                Admin and Poltergeist
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Oct 2005
                • 44680

                Originally posted by Nardo1895
                While that is true it may be a requirement without a consequence. It sort of depends on what the wife wants to do with them. If she intends to keep any of them she should re-register them in her name.

                If she is intent on selling them, she doesn't need to register them. She may be in technical violation of the law by not sending in the Op Law form to put them in her name, but as long as she legally sells or transfers them through a dealer there is no (apparent) consequence. I have helped two widows dispose of their husband's collections. Some were sold as PPTs, some as dealer transfers and some out of state. If there was going to be an issue, I think it it would have showed up on the PPTs.
                I would not expect a problem either.

                This was just to re-emphasize that California's 'community property' law and California 'gun law' conflict with common expectations.
                ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                • #9
                  freewayrandy
                  Junior Member
                  • Nov 2019
                  • 45

                  Thank you all for the input.

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                  • #10
                    Tyke8319
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 2105

                    Good to know...
                    American soldier by choice. Made in America by the Grace of God.

                    So, now it is ironic that the State whittles away at the right of its citizens to defend themselves from the possible oppression of their State.
                    Judge Roger T. Benitez
                    LCM's ruled legal 3/29/2019

                    Comment

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