Can I DROs

[GlockyCatt]

Hello Y'all, my last DROs was on 6/13/2022 completed at 3:20pm for a handgun, my questions is if I head down to my local FFL today (7/13/2022) after 3:20 pm will this count as a new 30day window to allow me a new DROs? I usually wait at least 31days to DROs new firearms just to be sure but my schedule won't allow me to get down to my local FFL other then today. Thank you in advance for your time and replies

[XxWoodsHunterxX]

[9Cal_OC]

Yes.

[Vinnie Boombatz]

As long as it is 30 days and 1 second after the time that appears on your last DROS you’re good to go. Waiting an extra hour isn’t going to do anything. The system recognizes the times.

[GlockyCatt]

Perfect! Thank you all for your input.

[acespawnshop]

NO NO AND NO! The 1 in 30 is calendar days not date and time you need to wait until day 31 to initate another DROS.

[SkyHawk]

720 hours + 1 second to be precise, and that is important if you want to account for a possible change of time due to daylight savings during the window. Yes, people here have tried to DROS one hour early because they forgot about the DST shift

The end of the wait period is literally printed on your last DROS as "latest delivery date/time". It takes everything into account including DST, leap year, whatever - so you do not even have to think about it.

[BONECUTTER]

NO NO AND NO! The 1 in 30 is calendar days not date and time you need to wait until day 31 to initate another DROS.

Not sure what you are referencing but the 30 days is down to hours and seconds just like the 10 day wait. Not a calendar day.

720 hours + 1 second to be precise, and that is important if you want to account for a possible change of time due to daylight savings during the window. Yes, people here have tried to DROS one hour early because they forgot about the DST shift

The end of the wait period is literally printed on your last DROS as "latest delivery date/time". It takes everything into account including DST, leap year, whatever - so you do not even have to think about it.

Correct^^^^

[acespawnshop]

https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/infobuls/9907.pdf

Sorry wrong link... EDIT...

So where in here does it say that it comes down to the hour and minute. I've had customers do a DROS on day 30 after their hour and minute and be rejected for a 1 in 30 violation

[acespawnshop]

ALSO....

SEC. 18. Section 27535 of the Penal Code is amended to read:
27535. (a) A person shall not make an application to purchase more than one handgun or semiautomatic centerfire rifle within any 30-day period. This subdivision does not authorize a person to make an application to purchase both a handgun and semiautomatic centerfire rifle within the same 30-day period.

Again where is it giving an hour and minute here?

[Vinnie Boombatz]

NO NO AND NO! The 1 in 30 is calendar days not date and time you need to wait until day 31 to initate another DROS.

[Vinnie Boombatz]

720 hours + 1 second to be precise, and that is important if you want to account for a possible change of time due to daylight savings during the window. Yes, people here have tried to DROS one hour early because they forgot about the DST shift

The end of the wait period is literally printed on your last DROS as "latest delivery date/time". It takes everything into account including DST, leap year, whatever - so you do not even have to think about it.

This isn’t true either. That is the last day you can pick up your firearm before having to start another DROS. The 30 days is based off of your earliest pickup date on the form, not the latest date for pickup. If you’re 30 days +1 second after that earliest pickup date you’re fine.

EDIT: meant to sat it is based off of the TRANSACTION DATE/TIME on the DROS form.

[SkyHawk]

This isn’t true either. That is the last day you can pick up your firearm before having to start another DROS. The 30 days is based off of your earliest pickup date on the form, not the latest date for pickup. If you’re 30 days +1 second after that earliest pickup date you’re fine.

WRONG. The latest pickup time is based off DROS submission time. It is exactly 720 hours. You have 30 days to pickup your gun after the submit button is pressed.

The 30 days between "applications to purchase" is also based off DROS submission (aka the application) time. They are the exact same. 720 hours. They start at the exact same time.

And so - the 30 day window between applications expires exactly when the "latest pickup date/time" passes.

And that is why the latest pickup date/time is also the end time of the 1/30 window.

[SkyHawk]

ALSO....

SEC. 18. Section 27535 of the Penal Code is amended to read:
27535. (a) A person shall not make an application to purchase more than one handgun or semiautomatic centerfire rifle within any 30-day period. This subdivision does not authorize a person to make an application to purchase both a handgun and semiautomatic centerfire rifle within the same 30-day period.

Again where is it giving an hour and minute here?

24 hours in a day, 60 minutes in an hour, 60 seconds in a minute.

If they something costs 37 dollars and 19 cents, it is the same as saying it costs 3719 cents.

If they say something take 30 days - absent any other stated caveats, it is the same thing as saying it takes 720 hours, or 43,200 minutes, or 2,592,000 seconds

And that is why the DROS submission time, earliest pickup time, and latest pickup time, are all expressed down to the second on the DROS after submission. It is also why a gun cannot be released until the earliest date/time second arrives, and cannot be released after the last second on the latest date/time passes.

[BONECUTTER]

So where in here does it say that it comes down to the hour and minute.

Literally on the DROS...seconds too.

Follow the logic:
Do you deliver on day 10? or make customers wait til day 11.

If a customer comes to pick up and day 30 but its after the max time....its still day 30 right? But you can't deliver.

The PC says Day....not "calendar day" A day is a 24 hour period.

Even during the daylight savings time the CADOJ adjusts the DROS delivery 10/30 times to adjust for 240/720 hours.

If you have a rejection after that 30 day time they made a mistake.