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  • Chewy65
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2013
    • 5042

    Fastest way to register an off roster

    Some members on other Calgun.com boards have been asking about the quickest way they could register an off roster pistol that had been given them long ago in what then qualified as a intra familial transfer, if they had reported their receipt within 30 days of taking possession. After several years passage they now want to get add it to a CCW, but they believe the policy of their county's IA is not to approve carrying an unregistered firearm.

    Supposedly there is no fear of anyone being charged with failng to use a FFL, which would have been required due to the fialure to timely file the interfamilial report, as the period of limitations is well past. They can still file a Ownership Report, but it takes one several months and perhaps over a year for one to process and be approved. Most issuers will not accept proof of reporting ownership as proof of registration. They want to see in AFS that it is registered to the applicant.

    I was wondering if Pawning the gun and retreiving it from Pawn would result in getting it registered, since it goes through DROS. If so, I wonder if it can be delivered since it is not on the roster and, I believe, FFL's may not deliver on off roster absent some exemption. Is there an exemption applicable to delivery of a firearm being held as collateral? Ownership never changed.
    Last edited by Chewy65; 06-30-2022, 9:42 PM.
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    Dvrjon
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Nov 2012
    • 11337

    Chewy:

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    • #3
      Foothills
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2014
      • 918

      Though, if it were my friend, I would tell them to buy a new Shield that would be registered and leave the old one "as is."
      CRPA Member

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      • #4
        Nardo1895
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2016
        • 965

        I had a customer ask me the same question. I told him he could try the interfamilial route as it seems DOJ is mostly concerned about getting guns registered. I told him if he wanted it done quicker he could put it on consignment and then cancel the contract. I think this is basically the same as pawning it.

        Curious what other FFLs think.

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        • #5
          Dvrjon
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Nov 2012
          • 11337

          Originally posted by Nardo1895
          I had a customer ask me the same question. I told him he could try the interfamilial route as it seems DOJ is mostly concerned about getting guns registered. I told him if he wanted it done quicker he could put it on consignment and then cancel the contract. I think this is basically the same as pawning it.

          Curious what other FFLs think.
          Please see statute 2 posts up.

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          • #6
            Nardo1895
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2016
            • 965

            Originally posted by Dvrjon
            Please see statute 2 posts up.
            I missed "consignment sale" when I read it the fist time. Thanks

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            • #7
              Chewy65
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2013
              • 5042

              Originally posted by Dvrjon
              Chewy:
              Thanks Dvrjon. I was pretty sure there was something like that in the PC but could not locate where to verify.

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              • #8
                Canucky
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2007
                • 4265

                Originally posted by Nardo1895
                I had a customer ask me the same question. I told him he could try the interfamilial route as it seems DOJ is mostly concerned about getting guns registered. I told him if he wanted it done quicker he could put it on consignment and then cancel the contract. I think this is basically the same as pawning it.

                Curious what other FFLs think.
                Still needs to be held for 30 days?

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                • #9
                  Nardo1895
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2016
                  • 965

                  Originally posted by Canucky
                  Still needs to be held for 30 days?
                  I've never actually done one so I'm not sure. But I would think a return to owner within the 30 day period would be ok.

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