DoJ Inspection coming up. What should I expect?

[XxWoodsHunterxX]

OK. Missed that one. Anyone know where/how to acquire these tags?

RKFFL.com makes the tags 100/$7.50


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[XxWoodsHunterxX]

Safe affidavit only works with longguns.


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[medicdubs96]

Safe affidavit only works with longguns.


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"Are you Serious Clark?" Please show me where this is stated in the Reg.'s/law, Im not being a A-hole I guess I've been doing it wrong.

A perfect example is any of the CZ handguns, the lock meets the Fed requirement but not the State. In this case I offer a Safe affidavit OR a CA approved lock.

[taperxz]

"Are you Serious Clark?" Please show me where this is stated in the Reg.'s/law, Im not being a A-hole I guess I've been doing it wrong.

A perfect example is any of the CZ handguns, the lock meets the Fed requirement but not the State. In this case I offer a Safe affidavit OR a CA approved lock.

The actual CA law makes it illegal to deliver the gun with a lock or device not on the lock roster. Federal law says a locking device must be present to pick up the handgun. You now get to read between the lines.

[XxWoodsHunterxX]

DoJ Inspection coming up. What should I expect?

"Are you Serious Clark?" Please show me where this is stated in the Reg.'s/law, Im not being a A-hole I guess I've been doing it wrong.

A perfect example is any of the CZ handguns, the lock meets the Fed requirement but not the State. In this case I offer a Safe affidavit OR a CA approved lock.

[medicdubs96]

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/fsdfaqs

[taperxz]

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/fsdfaqs

Technically, a CA FFL isn’t even supposed to distribute a non certified lock with any gun transferred. That means that a non compliant gun lock should be removed from the box and replaced with a CA Certified Lock.

This is why people say that you can’t use the uncertified lock to satisfy the Feds and then use a safe affidavit.

[medicdubs96]

I'm aware of that also, my question for the state would be what right do I have to take something that was purchased by another person? Although all handguns are sold with a lock per Fed. law the locks aren't free, it is included in the purchase of the gun.

[Elite Armory]

Also make sure all your FSC/HSC's are in order, organized and filled out completely.

[ugimports]

I'm aware of that also, my question for the state would be what right do I have to take something that was purchased by another person? Although all handguns are sold with a lock per Fed. law the locks aren't free, it is included in the purchase of the gun.

If you receive a pistol with hi-cap magazines for transfer to a non-exempt person what do you do?

[XxWoodsHunterxX]

[XxWoodsHunterxX]

If you receive a pistol with hi-cap magazines for transfer to a non-exempt person what do you do?

What do you mean? Are you asking if you are logging the magazines into a log or are you asking about the lock?


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[ugimports]

What do you mean? Are you asking if you are logging the magazines into a log or are you asking about the lock?


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The person I quoted effectively said "Why would I remove a non-compliant lock if the customer paid for it?"

So my ask was "If the customer paid for a hi-cap mag and were not exempt, would you not remove it?" -- similar logic to why a non-compliant lock would be removed even if it was "paid" for by the customer.

[whatmeworry]

Not an apples to apples comparison.

Distribution of a non compliant lock is not a crime, you can buy non compliant locks at any Home Depot. But distribution of hi-cap mags, different story.

[ugimports]

Not an apples to apples comparison.

Distribution of a non compliant lock is not a crime, you can buy non compliant locks at any Home Depot. But distribution of hi-cap mags, different story.

I guess it's only a civil violation (Section 23660 is the relevant section about removing those non-CA locks):

23670.
(a) (1) A violation of Section 23660 or 23665 is punishable by a civil fine of up to five hundred dollars ($500).

(2) A second violation of any of those sections, which occurs within five years of the date of a previous offense, is punishable by a civil fine of up to one thousand dollars ($1,000) and, if the violation is committed by a licensed firearms dealer, the dealer shall be ineligible to sell firearms in this state for 30 days.

(3) A third or subsequent violation that occurs within five years of two or more previous offenses is punishable by a civil fine of up to five thousand dollars ($5,000) and, if the violation is committed by a licensed firearms dealer, the firearms dealer shall be permanently ineligible to sell firearms in this state.

(b) The Attorney General, a district attorney, or a city attorney may bring a civil action for a violation of Section 23660 or 23665.

23660.
(a) No person shall keep for commercial sale, offer, or expose for commercial sale, or commercially sell any firearm safety device that is not listed on the roster maintained pursuant to subdivision (d) of Section 23655, or that does not comply with the standards for firearm safety devices adopted pursuant to Section 23650.

(b) No person may distribute as part of an organized firearm safety program, with or without consideration, any firearm safety device that is not listed on the roster maintained pursuant to subdivision (d) of Section 23655, or that does not comply with the standards for firearm safety devices adopted pursuant to Section 23650.