P.O. Box On DL

[Redeyedrider]

If a PO box is listed on your DL. Is it correct that you will need DL plus 2 additional proof of residence documents for handgun purchase?

Will the following suffice:

- DL with P.O. Box
- Car Registration
- Utility Bill

[CartridgeCalls]

P.O. Box address must show on all forms.

[Mtndewking]

Completely depends on the FFL, but yes those should suffice.

Been doing it (purchasing) for years that way. DL has po box. Rego has physical and po box. Most FFL's stop there. Others will go further and I produce a utility bill with physical and po box

[Tyke8319]

P.O. Box address must show on all forms.

WHAT??

Physical address is required on all documents as it is shown on the 4473 and DROS.

[Quiet]

If a PO box is listed on your DL. Is it correct that you will need DL plus 2 additional proof of residence documents for handgun purchase?

Will the following suffice:

- DL with P.O. Box
- Car Registration
- Utility Bill

In order to acquire a handgun from a CA FFL dealer, you need to provide:
1. Valid proof of identification and age. [PC 26815(c)]
2. Current proof of residency. [PC 26845(a)]

A valid CA DL/ID only meets the requirement for proof of identification and age. [PC 16400]
^It does not meet the requirement for current proof of residency.

Examples of additional documentation that meets the requirement for current proof of residency...
A valid CA vehicle registration. [11 CCR 4045(d)(1)]
A current CA utility (electric, gas, water) bill. [11 CCR 4045(a)]
A valid CA CCW permit. [11 CCR 4045(d)(1)]

Due to Federal laws/regulations...
If the State DL/ID is a "Federal Limits Apply" DL/ID, then additional documentation is required in order to provide proof that the person is legally in the USA. [11 CCR 4045.1(a)]
Examples of additional documentation that meets the requirement for proof of legally being in the USA...
A valid US Passport or US Passport Card. [11 CCR 4045.1(b)(1)]
A certified US birth certificate. [11 CCR 4045.1(b)(2)]
A valid Permanent Resident Card. [11 CCR 4045.1(b)(7)]



California Code of Regulations Title 11 Division 5 Chapter 4 Article 1 Section 4045
The following definitions and requirements apply to documents intended to serve as evidence of residency for the acquisition of a handgun pursuant to Penal Code section 26845:
(a)(1) “Utility bill” means a statement of charges for providing direct service to the individual's residence by either a physical connection (i.e., hard wired telephone or cable connection, or a water or gas pipeline connection), or a telemetric connection (i.e., satellite television or radio broadcast service) to a non-mobile, fixed antenna reception device.
(2) The utility bill statement date must be within three months of the current date.
(A) The individual's current residential address as declared on the Dealer's Record of Sale (DROS) form.
(B) The individual's residential address as it appears on his or her California Driver License or California Identification Card, or change of address attachment thereto.
(b)(1) “Residential lease” means either of the following:
(A) A signed and dated contract by which the individual (tenant) agrees to pay a specified monetary sum or provide other consideration for the right to occupy an abode for a specified period of time.
(B) A signed and dated rental agreement by which the individual (tenant) agrees to pay a specified monetary sum or provide other consideration at fixed intervals for the right to occupy an abode.
(2) The residential lease must bear the individual's name and either of the following:
(A) The individual's current residential address as declared on the DROS form.
(B) The individual's address as it appears on his or her California Driver License or California Identification Card, or change of address attachment thereto.
(c)(1) “Property deed” means either of the following:
(A) A valid deed of trust for the individual's property of current residence that identifies the individual as a grantee of the trust.
(B) A valid Certificate of Title issued by a licensed title insurance company that identifies the individual as a title holder to his or her property of current residence.
(2) The property deed must bear the individual's name and either of the following:
(A) The individual's current residential address as declared on the DROS form.
(B) The individual's address as it appears on his or her California Driver License or California Identification Card, or change of address attachment thereto.
(d) “Other evidence of residency as permitted by the Department of Justice” means either of the following:
(1) A current, government-issued (city, county, special district, state, or federal) license, permit, or registration, other than a California Driver License or California Identification Card, that has a specified expiration date or period of validity. The license, permit, or registration must bear the individual's name and either of the following:
(A) The individual's current residential address as declared on the DROS form.
(B) The individual's address as it appears on his or her California Driver License or California Identification Card, or change of address attachment thereto.
(2) A valid peace officer credential issued by a California law enforcement agency to an active, reserve, or retired peace officer.

[Tyke8319]

^^^^

[taperxz]

In order to acquire a handgun from a CA FFL dealer, you need to provide:
1. Valid proof of identification and age. [PC 26815(c)]
2. Current proof of residency. [PC 26845(a)]

A valid CA DL/ID only meets the requirement for proof of identification and age. [PC 16400]
^It does not meet the requirement for current proof of residency.

Examples of additional documentation that meets the requirement for current proof of residency...
A valid CA vehicle registration. [11 CCR 4045(d)(1)]
A current CA utility (electric, gas, water) bill. [11 CCR 4045(a)]
A valid CA CCW permit. [11 CCR 4045(d)(1)]

Due to Federal laws/regulations...
If the State DL/ID is a "Federal Limits Apply" DL/ID, then additional documentation is required in order to provide proof that the person is legally in the USA. [11 CCR 4045.1(a)]
Examples of additional documentation that meets the requirement for proof of legally being in the USA...
A valid US Passport or US Passport Card. [11 CCR 4045.1(b)(1)]
A certified US birth certificate. [11 CCR 4045.1(b)(2)]
A valid Permanent Resident Card. [11 CCR 4045.1(b)(7)]



California Code of Regulations Title 11 Division 5 Chapter 4 Article 1 Section 4045

[XxWoodsHunterxX]

P.O. Box address must show on all forms.

[XxWoodsHunterxX]

Completely depends on the FFL, but yes those should suffice.

Been doing it (purchasing) for years that way. DL has po box. Rego has physical and po box. Most FFL's stop there. Others will go further and I produce a utility bill with physical and po box

Correct since you dmv reg is a government doc is suffices for both federal and state


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[Harry Ono]

If a PO box is listed on your DL. Is it correct that you will need DL plus 2 additional proof of residence documents for handgun purchase?

Will the following suffice:

- DL with P.O. Box
- Car Registration
- Utility Bill

and in some cases a Fishing License, State Issued only.

[ronlglock]

One of our customers lives in a city without mail delivery so everything has a PO Box. His postmaster wrote a letter stating this with his street address and his utility bill has the service address in addition to the POB.

[chevy_dog]

If buying a long gun, I require just the ATF required proof of address. If buying handgun, I need the ATF, as well as the CA required additional proof of address, so 2 proofs for a handgun.