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  • GenghisQuan
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2017
    • 15

    Only sell ammo, C&R, or transfers as Type 3?

    Hi there,

    Would a Type 3 FFL be sufficient if I want to just sell ammo, C&R firearms(let's suppose I'm not buying boxes of them to sell, just like maybe one or two of a given model to have sell the ones I don't like), and/or only perform online or person to person transfers (like someone wants to buy a gun off gunbroker, and I would just be the guy doing the background check and collecting the state tax and a transfer fee)?

    Would I be able to do all, some, or none of the things above?

    Thanks.
  • #2
    SkyHawk
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Sep 2012
    • 23525

    Absolutely not Ok. At all. You need 01 FFL to do the things you described. 03 is *strictly* for acquiring a personal collection of C&R guns.
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    • #3
      CartridgeCalls
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2016
      • 1413

      Need an ammo sellers permit.
      Cartridge Calls, Predator, Duck and Big game calls made from real brass cartridges. 100% Disabled Veteran Owned and operated Small Business.
      www.cartridgecalls.com
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      • #4
        ronlglock
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • May 2011
        • 2670

        Originally posted by SkyHawk
        Absolutely not Ok. At all. You need 01 FFL to do the things you described. 03 is *strictly* for acquiring a personal collection of C&R guns.

        And you also will need:
        - sellers permit
        - business license
        - written permission from your local chief law enforcement officer to deal in firearms and/or ammo
        - California centralized list
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        • #5
          Quiet
          retired Goon
          • Mar 2007
          • 30242

          Originally posted by ronlglock
          Originally posted by SkyHawk
          Absolutely not Ok. At all. You need 01 FFL to do the things you described. 03 is *strictly* for acquiring a personal collection of C&R guns.
          And you also will need:
          - sellers permit
          - business license
          - written permission from your local chief law enforcement officer to deal in firearms and/or ammo
          - California centralized list
          What they said.

          Emphasis on part in bold.
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          "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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          • #6
            GenghisQuan
            Junior Member
            • Jul 2017
            • 15

            So basically, of all the processes/regs that I can skip, it really just enables me to 1. buy C&R firearms and have them shipped to me rather than needing to go through a dealer and 2. buy ammo oand have them shipped to me rather than needing to go through a dealer.

            If I want to sell part of my collection, I would still need to go to someone with a 01 license and have them do the person-to-person transfer?

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            • #7
              Milsurp1
              Veteran Member
              • Aug 2016
              • 3091

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              • #8
                BaronW
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2007
                • 989

                Originally posted by GenghisQuan
                So basically, of all the processes/regs that I can skip, it really just enables me to 1. buy C&R firearms and have them shipped to me rather than needing to go through a dealer and 2. buy ammo oand have them shipped to me rather than needing to go through a dealer.

                If I want to sell part of my collection, I would still need to go to someone with a 01 license and have them do the person-to-person transfer?
                1. No. As of a few years ago, you can no longer get C&R firearms shipped directly to you. They must go through an FFL01.
                2. Yes, if you also have a Certificate of Eligibility (~long-term background check paper) from California and the out-of-state vendor is willing to cooperate (Brownells, AIM Surplus, TargetSportsUSA, etc.)
                I am not a lawyer, the above does not constitute legal advice.

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                • #9
                  Tere_Hanges
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 6270

                  And thats how 03FFLs get banned. Geezus where do people come up with this crap?
                  CRPA and NRA member.

                  Note that those who have repeatedly expressed enough vile and incoherent content as to render your views irrelevant, have been placed on my ignore list. Thank you for helping me improve my experience and direct my attention towards those who are worthy of it. God bless your toxic little souls.

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                  • #10
                    sfe187
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 1770

                    Originally posted by GenghisQuan
                    If I want to sell part of my collection, I would still need to go to someone with a 01 license and have them do the person-to-person transfer?
                    Inside CA:
                    C&R handgun - PPT via 01FFL.
                    C&R long gun - PPT via 01FFL or if buyer has 03/COE, he can acquire from you without using 01 and will need to CFARS within 30 days.

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                    • #11
                      CalifEd
                      Member
                      • Mar 2019
                      • 210

                      I know about the added restriction of 1 in 30 for long guns, and the FFL03/COE exemption, coming in July; what else is coming?

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