Question about selling these into Calif.

[aghauler]

Now living in New Mexico, left CA 3 years ago, and thinning the herd so to speak.
Have these to sell and was wondering if importable to CA.

Thoughts, advice???

Thanks!

Uberti Sharps 22 short 4 bbl Deluxe Engraved Derringer made in 1960's so is C&R, would make great SASS Belly gun:





HBAR Stainless upper on Anderson Lower with Thordsen Stock has ambidextrous safety installed after photo was taken. Don't know whether to sell the complete AR or just the lower, convert back to regular stock. Don't need this AR so its going away somehow.





Also have this but not legal for CA a Uberti Schofield in 45 Colt box and all original paperwork, so just a teaser , a real safe queen not quite C&R yet another 2 years to go, another great SASS pistol!
Last one I saw here in ABQ, NM in used condition, no box or paperwork was $1000.00! I do not believe this one has ever been fired!.

[Nardo1895]

Your Ubertri Sharps can be sold in CA if its a C&R. I'd want some kind of proof of manufacture date before I'd be willing to sell here.

Your AR should be ok as configured, assuming that's actually a 30 round mag permanently converted to 10 rounds. If not, remove before selling here.

You're right, your Schofield isn't CA legal yet if not C&R. You can convert it to single action to make it legal but that seems counterproductive if your value estimate is correct.

[TRICKSTER]

Unless you modified the Uberti Schofield, it should be single action, roster exempt, and perfectly legal in CA.

[aghauler]

Ok had to go confirm it is single action, date on it is Apr 73. Was not sold to me as a C&R. So I think it's a couple years short of C&R Status anyway. Not sure how to confirm date on Uberti firearms.

As far as the single action that would make it CA legal as is?

Also further on the Derringer made by Uberti, in the groove between the top of the barrels it shows NAVY ARMS INC.

It was sold to me as a C&R.

Schofield date photo:

[TRICKSTER]

Ok had to go confirm it is single action, date on it is Apr 73. Was not sold to me as a C&R. So I think it's a couple years short of C&R Status anyway. Not sure how to confirm date on Uberti firearms.

As far as the single action that would make it CA legal as is?

Also further on the Derringer made by Uberti, in the groove between the top of the barrels it shows NAVY ARMS INC.

It was sold to me as a C&R.

Schofield date photo:

It is roster exempt. I have purchased 2 of them over the past couple years.

https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/infobuls/0007.pdf

SB 15 EXEMPT HANDGUNS
All curio/relic handguns as defined in Section 178.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations are exempt from the provisions of SB 15. Also exempt are single-action revolvers that have at least a five-cartridge capacity with a barrel length of not less than three inches, and that meet any of the following specifications:

1. Was originally manufactured prior to1900 and is a curio or relic, as defined in Section 178.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations;

2. Has an overall length measured parallel to the barrel of at least seven and one-half inches when the handle, frame or receiver, and barrel are assembled; or

3. Has an overall length measured parallel to the barrel of at least seven and one-half inches when the handle, frame or receiver, and barrel are assembled and that is currently approved for importation into the United States pursuant to the provisions of paragraph (3) of subsection (d) of Section 925 of Title 18 of the United States Code.

Additionally, Olympic pistols listed in PC section 12132(h)(2) are exempt from the provisions of SB 15. Consequently, firearms dealers, secondhand dealers, and pawn brokers may retain curio/relic handguns and/or firearms defined as Olympic pistols in their inventories for sales to the public.

[SkyHawk]

The Schofield is CA legal. So is the 22 and the AR

That 22 is pretty cool. How do you select the barrel to fire, does something rotate on the hammer?

Also what makes you think that Schofield is almost C&R? I bet it is far from it. Those replica patent dates are 1871 and 1873, that '73' does not mean it was made in 1973. I'd be surprised if that was made before 2000.

[aghauler]

It is roster exempt. I have purchased 2 of them over the past couple years.

https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/infobuls/0007.pdf

SB 15 EXEMPT HANDGUNS
All curio/relic handguns as defined in Section 178.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations are exempt from the provisions of SB 15. Also exempt are single-action revolvers that have at least a five-cartridge capacity with a barrel length of not less than three inches, and that meet any of the following specifications:

1. Was originally manufactured prior to1900 and is a curio or relic, as defined in Section 178.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations;

2. Has an overall length measured parallel to the barrel of at least seven and one-half inches when the handle, frame or receiver, and barrel are assembled; or

3. Has an overall length measured parallel to the barrel of at least seven and one-half inches when the handle, frame or receiver, and barrel are assembled and that is currently approved for importation into the United States pursuant to the provisions of paragraph (3) of subsection (d) of Section 925 of Title 18 of the United States Code.

Additionally, Olympic pistols listed in PC section 12132(h)(2) are exempt from the provisions of SB 15. Consequently, firearms dealers, secondhand dealers, and pawn brokers may retain curio/relic handguns and/or firearms defined as Olympic pistols in their inventories for sales to the public.

Great Thank you for your info!

Bob B.

[aghauler]

The Schofield is CA legal. So is the 22 and the AR

That 22 is pretty cool. How do you select the barrel to fire, does something rotate on the hammer?

Also what makes you think that Schofield is almost C&R? I bet it is far from it. Those replica patent dates are 1871 and 1873, that '73' does not mean it was made in 1973. I'd be surprised if that was made before 2000.

The Derringer is the Deluxe Engraved model, they also made a plan jane version I've seen on auction sites as well.

Rotating firing pin like the original Sharps 4 bbl Derringer it's copied from just pull the hammer back that rotates the firing pin.

I saw one of the plan janes on an auction site last year go fer over $400 plus the 18% and shipping.

Got to thinking about the Schofield "date" photo and I agree probably copies of the original patent date. Plus looks new unused, all the paper work and cable lock are in the bottom of the box. Doubtful anybody was putting cable locks in the boxes 50 years ago!

Not too concerned about C&R status as like I mentioned it wasn't sold to me as a C&R as the Derringer was.

Will have to search around to see if there is a site to find Uberti manufacture dates.

Both are definantly very nice quality made replicas.

Thanks to all for the help!

[SkyHawk]

The Derringer is the Deluxe Engraved model, they also made a plan jane version I've seen on auction sites as well.

Rotating firing pin like the original Sharps 4 bbl Derringer it's copied from just pull the hammer back that rotates the firing pin.

That is very slick if the pin rotates with every hammer pull! Also that engraving really adds to the look IMO. I am not a fan of many derringers but I like the Colt 3rd models (and clones) and now adding that one to my list as well.

[aghauler]

The Schofield is CA legal. So is the 22 and the AR

That 22 is pretty cool. How do you select the barrel to fire, does something rotate on the hammer?

Also what makes you think that Schofield is almost C&R? I bet it is far from it. Those replica patent dates are 1871 and 1873, that '73' does not mean it was made in 1973. I'd be surprised if that was made before 2000.

Found Uberti has serial number look up site will try it tomorrow if I get time.

The Derringers were produced in the 1960's imported by Navy Arms, import stopped by 1968 gun control Act.

So the engraved examples are rare, according to some posts I've seen on a couple a SASS forum comments.

Rumor is the quality engraving on the Derringer may have been done by Aldo Uberti personally.

[I Swan]

I'd be interested in derringer depending what you'd want for it I think all those Uberti derringers are C&R due to import stopped due to 1968 laws involving importing small handguns.

[aghauler]

I'd be interested in derringer depending what you'd want for it I think all those Uberti derringers are C&R due to import stopped due to 1968 laws involving importing small handguns.

You're correct about the stopping of import from this recent closed listing
on Gun Broker according to info on that listing.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/891371566

Engraving looks high quality, not machine done. Hefty little pistol. Doesn't show any usage, possibly unfired but can't swear to it. Also has a partial box of vintage 22 LR ammo shown in photos but would be removed before shipping and that has to be shipped separately.