Ammo exempt enter on DES form

[Socalspeed]

Does anybody know what you fill out in DES for an exempt individual buying ammo? Like the FFL, Ammo cert that the person has? This to avoid the background check.
Not sure this makes sense.

Thanks in advance.

[acespawnshop]

From what my understanding is there is no paperwork. Like example what paperwork would your distributor have to do to send you ammo? Nothing. Same same right?

[Socalspeed]

From what my understanding is there is no paperwork. Like example what paperwork would your distributor have to do to send you ammo? Nothing. Same same right?

[ugimports]

Personally as COE is different then Ammo Vendor exempt.

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[acespawnshop]

Yeah. But why would you or more importantly I want you do sell it to me in the DES when you don’t have to? That’s my contention.

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Applicable CA laws/regulations... (see parts in bold for CA FFL dealer)

Penal Code 30352
(a) Commencing July 1, 2019, an ammunition vendor shall not sell or otherwise transfer ownership of any ammunition without, at the time of delivery, legibly recording the following information on a form to be prescribed by the Department of Justice:
(1) The date of the sale or other transfer.
(2) The purchaser's or transferee's driver's license or other identification number and the state in which it was issued.
(3) The brand, type, and amount of ammunition sold or otherwise transferred.
(4) The purchaser's or transferee's full name and signature.
(5) The name of the salesperson who processed the sale or other transaction.
(6) The purchaser's or transferee's full residential address and telephone number.
(7) The purchaser's or transferee's date of birth.
(b) Commencing July 1, 2019, an ammunition vendor shall electronically submit to the department the information required by subdivision (a) for all sales and transfers of ownership of ammunition. The department shall retain this information in a database to be known as the Ammunition Purchase Records File. This information shall remain confidential and may be used by the department and those entities specified in, and pursuant to, subdivision (b) or (c) of Section 11105, through the California Law Enforcement Telecommunications System, only for law enforcement purposes. The ammunition vendor shall not use, sell, disclose, or share the information for any other purpose other than the submission required by this subdivision without the express written consent of the purchaser or transferee.
(c) Commencing on July 1, 2019, only those persons listed in this subdivision, or those persons or entities listed in subdivision (e), shall be authorized to purchase ammunition. Prior to delivering any ammunition, an ammunition vendor shall require bona fide evidence of identity to verify that the person who is receiving delivery of the ammunition is a person or entity listed in subdivision (e) or one of the following:
(1) A person authorized to purchase ammunition pursuant to Section 30370.
(2) A person who was approved by the department to receive a firearm from the ammunition vendor, pursuant to Section 28220, if that vendor is a licensed firearms dealer, and the ammunition is delivered to the person in the same transaction as the firearm.
(d) Commencing July 1, 2019, the ammunition vendor shall verify with the department, in a manner prescribed by the department, that the person is authorized to purchase ammunition. If the person is not listed as an authorized ammunition purchaser, the vendor shall deny the sale or transfer.
(e) Subdivisions (a) and (d) shall not apply to sales or other transfers of ownership of ammunition by ammunition vendors to any of the following, if properly identified:
(1) An ammunition vendor.
(2) A person who is on the centralized list of exempted federal firearms licensees maintained by the department pursuant to Article 6 (commencing with Section 28450) of Chapter 6 of Division 6.
(3) A person who purchases or receives ammunition at a target facility holding a business or other regulatory license, provided that the ammunition is at all times kept within the facility’s premises.
(4) A gunsmith.
(5) A wholesaler.
(6) A manufacturer or importer of firearms or ammunition licensed pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code, and the regulations issued pursuant thereto.
(7) An authorized law enforcement representative of a city, county, city and county, or state or federal government, if the sale or other transfer of ownership is for exclusive use by that government agency, and, prior to the sale, delivery, or transfer of the handgun ammunition, written authorization from the head of the agency authorizing the transaction is presented to the person from whom the purchase, delivery, or transfer is being made. Proper written authorization is defined as verifiable written certification from the head of the agency by which the purchaser, transferee, or person otherwise acquiring ownership is employed, identifying the employee as an individual authorized to conduct the transaction, and authorizing the transaction for the exclusive use of the agency by which that individual is employed.
(8)(A) A properly identified sworn peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, or properly identified sworn federal law enforcement officer, who is authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of the officer's duties.
(B)(i) Proper identification is defined as verifiable written certification from the head of the agency by which the purchaser or transferee is employed, identifying the purchaser or transferee as a full-time paid peace officer who is authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of the officer's duties.
(ii) The certification shall be delivered to the vendor at the time of purchase or transfer and the purchaser or transferee shall provide bona fide evidence of identity to verify that he or she is the person authorized in the certification.
(iii) The vendor shall keep the certification with the record of sale and submit the certification to the department.
(f) The department is authorized to adopt regulations to implement the provisions of this section.

California Code of Regulations Title 11 Divison 5 Chapter 11 Article 5 Section 4306
(a) The following types of identification will properly identify an individual who is exempt pursuant to Penal Code section 30352, subdivision (e), from Department approval to purchase or transfer ammunition.
(1) An ammunition vendor shall present a valid Ammunition Vendor License issued pursuant to Penal Code section 30385.
(2) A person who is on the centralized list of exempted federal firearms licensees maintained by the Department shall present a Department-issued Listing Acknowledgement Letter indicating that the individual is currently on the centralized list of exempted federal firearms licensees.
(3) A gunsmith shall present a valid Type 01 Federal Firearms License.
(4) A wholesaler shall present a valid Type 01 Federal Firearms License.
(5) A manufacturer of firearms shall present a valid Type 07 Federal Firearms License.
(6) An importer of firearms or ammunition shall present a valid Type 08 Federal Firearms License.
(7) A manufacturer of ammunition shall present a valid Type 06 Federal Firearms License.
(8) An authorized law enforcement representative of a city, county, city and county, or state or federal government shall present written authorization from the head of the agency authorizing the ammunition purchase or transfer, as described by Penal Code section 30352, subdivision (e)(7).
(9) A properly identified sworn peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 of Title 3 of Part 2 of the Penal Code, who is authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of the officer's duties, shall present both:
(A) A sworn state or local peace officer's credential, and
(B) Verifiable written certification from the head of the agency, as described by Penal Code section 30352, subdivision (e)(8)(B)(i). The verifiable written certification from the head of the agency expires 30 days after issuance.
(10) A properly identified sworn federal law enforcement officer, who is authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of the officer's duties, shall present both:
(A) A sworn federal law enforcement officer's credential, and
(B) Verifiable written certification from the head of the agency, as described by Penal Code section 30352, subdivision (e)(8)(B)(i). The verifiable written certification from the head of the agency expires 30 days after issuance.
(b) For persons identified pursuant to subdivisions (a)(9) and (10) of this section, the ammunition vendor shall keep a photocopy of the front and back of the credential and the identification document provided pursuant to subdivision (c) of this section, along with the original verifiable written certification from the head of the agency. The ammunition vendor shall make a copy of these records available to the Department upon request.
(1) If the law enforcement agency does not allow photocopies to be made of the credential, the ammunition vendor shall retain a business card from the sworn law enforcement officer after personally viewing the credential.
(c) At the time of delivery, the ammunition vendor COE holder, authorized associate, or salesperson shall require the purchaser or transferee to provide an identification document that meets the requirements of Penal Code section 16300, to verify that the person who is receiving delivery of the ammunition is the person exempted pursuant to Penal Code section 30352, subdivision (e).
(d) Once the ammunition vendor has verified that the individual is exempt from Department approval to purchase or transfer ammunition, the ammunition vendor may process an ammunition purchase or transfer without Department approval.

[Socalspeed]

Applicable CA laws/regulations... (see parts in bold for CA FFL dealer)

Penal Code 30352
(a) Commencing July 1, 2019, an ammunition vendor shall not sell or otherwise transfer ownership of any ammunition without, at the time of delivery, legibly recording the following information on a form to be prescribed by the Department of Justice:
(1) The date of the sale or other transfer.
(2) The purchaser's or transferee's driver's license or other identification number and the state in which it was issued.
(3) The brand, type, and amount of ammunition sold or otherwise transferred.
(4) The purchaser's or transferee's full name and signature.
(5) The name of the salesperson who processed the sale or other transaction.
(6) The purchaser's or transferee's full residential address and telephone number.
(7) The purchaser's or transferee's date of birth.
(b) Commencing July 1, 2019, an ammunition vendor shall electronically submit to the department the information required by subdivision (a) for all sales and transfers of ownership of ammunition. The department shall retain this information in a database to be known as the Ammunition Purchase Records File. This information shall remain confidential and may be used by the department and those entities specified in, and pursuant to, subdivision (b) or (c) of Section 11105, through the California Law Enforcement Telecommunications System, only for law enforcement purposes. The ammunition vendor shall not use, sell, disclose, or share the information for any other purpose other than the submission required by this subdivision without the express written consent of the purchaser or transferee.
(c) Commencing on July 1, 2019, only those persons listed in this subdivision, or those persons or entities listed in subdivision (e), shall be authorized to purchase ammunition. Prior to delivering any ammunition, an ammunition vendor shall require bona fide evidence of identity to verify that the person who is receiving delivery of the ammunition is a person or entity listed in subdivision (e) or one of the following:
(1) A person authorized to purchase ammunition pursuant to Section 30370.
(2) A person who was approved by the department to receive a firearm from the ammunition vendor, pursuant to Section 28220, if that vendor is a licensed firearms dealer, and the ammunition is delivered to the person in the same transaction as the firearm.
(d) Commencing July 1, 2019, the ammunition vendor shall verify with the department, in a manner prescribed by the department, that the person is authorized to purchase ammunition. If the person is not listed as an authorized ammunition purchaser, the vendor shall deny the sale or transfer.
(e) Subdivisions (a) and (d) shall not apply to sales or other transfers of ownership of ammunition by ammunition vendors to any of the following, if properly identified:
(1) An ammunition vendor.
(2) A person who is on the centralized list of exempted federal firearms licensees maintained by the department pursuant to Article 6 (commencing with Section 28450) of Chapter 6 of Division 6.The department is authorized to adopt regulations to implement the provisions of this section.

California Code of Regulations Title 11 Divison 5 Chapter 11 Article 5 Section 4306
(a) The following types of identification will properly identify an individual who is exempt pursuant to Penal Code section 30352, subdivision (e), from Department approval to purchase or transfer ammunition.
(1) An ammunition vendor shall present a valid Ammunition Vendor License issued pursuant to Penal Code section 30385.
(2) A person who is on the centralized list of exempted federal firearms licensees maintained by the Department shall present a Department-issued Listing Acknowledgement Letter indicating that the individual is currently on the centralized list of exempted federal firearms licensees.
(3) A gunsmith shall present a valid Type 01 Federal Firearms License.
(4) A wholesaler shall present a valid Type 01 Federal Firearms License.
(5) A manufacturer of firearms shall present a valid Type 07 Federal Firearms License.
(6) An importer of firearms or ammunition shall present a valid Type 08 Federal Firearms License.
(7) A manufacturer of ammunition shall present a valid Type 06 Federal Firearms License.
(8) An authorized law enforcement representative of a city, county, city and county, or state or federal government shall present written authorization from the head of the agency authorizing the ammunition purchase or transfer, as described by Penal Code section 30352, subdivision (e)(7).
(9) A properly identified sworn peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 of Title 3 of Part 2 of the Penal Code, who is authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of the officer's duties, shall present both:
(A) A sworn state or local peace officer's credential, and
(B) Verifiable written certification from the head of the agency, as described by Penal Code section 30352, subdivision (e)(8)(B)(i). The verifiable written certification from the head of the agency expires 30 days after issuance.
(10) A properly identified sworn federal law enforcement officer, who is authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of the officer's duties, shall present both:
(A) A sworn federal law enforcement officer's credential, and
(B) Verifiable written certification from the head of the agency, as described by Penal Code section 30352, subdivision (e)(8)(B)(i). The verifiable written certification from the head of the agency expires 30 days after issuance.
(b) For persons identified pursuant to subdivisions (a)(9) and (10) of this section, the ammunition vendor shall keep a photocopy of the front and back of the credential and the identification document provided pursuant to subdivision (c) of this section, along with the original verifiable written certification from the head of the agency. The ammunition vendor shall make a copy of these records available to the Department upon request.
(1) If the law enforcement agency does not allow photocopies to be made of the credential, the ammunition vendor shall retain a business card from the sworn law enforcement officer after personally viewing the credential.
(c) At the time of delivery, the ammunition vendor COE holder, authorized associate, or salesperson shall require the purchaser or transferee to provide an identification document that meets the requirements of Penal Code section 16300, to verify that the person who is receiving delivery of the ammunition is the person exempted pursuant to Penal Code section 30352, subdivision (e).
(d) Once the ammunition vendor has verified that the individual is exempt from Department approval to purchase or transfer ammunition, the ammunition vendor may process an ammunition purchase or transfer without Department approval.

Thanks for the info.


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[OCArmory]

Just make a copy of their CFD letter and ammo license. Pretty easy.