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  • 0321 U.S.M.C
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2020
    • 65

    something just not clicking in my brain

    Not sure why having a hard time understanding. I've searched and have asked my DOJ rep. who gives some round about answers to parts of my question without actually answering my direct question.
    I have already told both DOJ and ATF reps. that I lost everything in Camp fire, so I will be buying some guns for personal use. Both seem fine give'n the circumstances. I'm a new ffl 01, sole proprietor, home based, with a day job.
    So for the following, for personal use, used handgun, on roster, from private individual, in Ca.

    so for a ppt its face to face, thumbprint of buyer and seller, signatures of both.

    how does it work when a private individual sends(mails) a firearm to ffl for sale with thumbprint and signatures? back and forth papper work?

    How would I acquire a gun 2 hrs. away from me? do i need to do a ppt through a ffl there? thats what DOJ says, but if I go pick it up I'm acting like my own mail courier. Still need thumbprint/signature on DROS?

    in either instance how would it go in DES? ppt? dealer sale? acquisition then DROSed to self?

    basically is there a way to buy/get a firearm without seller coming to my residence because of travel distance, but I would be willing to pick up?

    maybe it just don't work like I think it should, or I'm missing something. Maybe it needs to be explained in crayon like I'm 4. Its just not clicking.

    If two of these show up my apologies, typed one (a little longer this is more condensed, hopefully gives same questions worded the way my brain is thinking) and then lost it some how.

    would anything change if off roster?, I assume no acquisition first.

    If you read this thanks, have a great weekend.
    Last edited by 0321 U.S.M.C; 05-23-2020, 5:39 PM.
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    ronlglock
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • May 2011
    • 2670

    Last edited by ronlglock; 05-23-2020, 7:07 PM.
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    • #3
      0321 U.S.M.C
      Junior Member
      • Mar 2020
      • 65

      Thanks for the reply,I understand CFLC, and receiving from another ffl, let’s take other ffl out of it for this one.
      I know a bad example, but I’m walking down the road, I see a handgun just laying there, it’s on roster, can I take home and just DROS to self? does Ca. care where I got such gun? I know A&D book different story, but I’m just talking DOJ for this.
      I’m picturing an example would work like this: I’m visiting a friend 2 hrs. away, I want to buy his on roster handgun, I give him cash, take pic of his ID. When I get home enter his info in A&D, DROS to self. Now does DOJ care how and from whom I acquired this? How do I satisfy that aspect of it?
      and maybe that’s where I confused my rep. I kept saying ppt to self and she would not correct me, or explain other options other than it’s complicated.
      Last edited by 0321 U.S.M.C; 05-24-2020, 12:39 PM.

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      • #4
        taperxz
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2010
        • 19395

        No. A PPT can easily be done without both parties being present. You use a DROS worksheet. Just like a consignment (which by law is a PPT with dealer assist and subject to tax)

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        • #5
          ronlglock
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • May 2011
          • 2670

          Originally posted by taperxz
          No. A PPT can easily be done without both parties being present. You use a DROS worksheet. Just like a consignment (which by law is a PPT with dealer assist and subject to tax)
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