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  • taperxz
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2010
    • 19395

    LEO and ammo BG checks

    We have been told (DOJ, way back) that LEO's are required to get a letter from their agency for ammo or go through a background check. Evidently, some people in the LEO forum are claiming they are exempt from needing a letter to avoid the BG check.


    Did this change or what are you guys doing?

    Originally Posted by PC30352;
    PC 30352(e)

    (8) (A) A properly identified sworn peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, or properly identified sworn federal law enforcement officer, who is authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of the officer's duties.
    (B) (i) Proper identification is defined as verifiable written certification from the head of the agency by which the purchaser or transferee is employed, identifying the purchaser or transferee as a full-time paid peace officer who is authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of the officer's duties.
    (ii) The certification shall be delivered to the vendor at the time of purchase or transfer and the purchaser or transferee shall provide bona fide evidence of identity to verify that he or she is the person authorized in the certification.
    (iii) The vendor shall keep the certification with the record of sale and submit the certification to the department.
    (f) The department is authorized to adopt regulations to implement the provisions of this section.
    Last edited by taperxz; 04-29-2020, 2:24 PM.
  • #2
    Tyke8319
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Nov 2013
    • 2105

    (e) Subdivisions (a) and (d) shall not apply to sales or other transfers of ownership of ammunition by ammunition vendors to any of the following, if properly identified:


    (8) (A) A properly identified sworn peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, or properly identified sworn federal law enforcement officer, who is authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of the officer's duties.

    If a uniformed officer (in full regalia) entered my store and wanted to buy (hasn't happened yet) ammunition, I'd have no problem selling it w/o the stupid background check. I might ask for his ID if I didn't know him/her.
    American soldier by choice. Made in America by the Grace of God.

    So, now it is ironic that the State whittles away at the right of its citizens to defend themselves from the possible oppression of their State.
    Judge Roger T. Benitez
    LCM's ruled legal 3/29/2019

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    • #3
      taperxz
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Feb 2010
      • 19395

      Originally posted by Tyke8319
      (e) Subdivisions (a) and (d) shall not apply to sales or other transfers of ownership of ammunition by ammunition vendors to any of the following, if properly identified:


      (8) (A) A properly identified sworn peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, or properly identified sworn federal law enforcement officer, who is authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of the officer's duties.

      If a uniformed officer (in full regalia) entered my store and wanted to buy (hasn't happened yet) ammunition, I'd have no problem selling it w/o the stupid background check. I might ask for his ID if I didn't know him/her.
      You would be wrong. He needs a letter, the letter is good for 30 days and this was hashed out in the LEO forum.

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      • #4
        taperxz
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2010
        • 19395

        Here are the relevant parts.

        California Code of Regulations Title 11 Divison 5 Chapter 11 Article 5 Section 4306
        (a) The following types of identification will properly identify an individual who is exempt pursuant to Penal Code section 30352, subdivision (e), from Department approval to purchase or transfer ammunition.
        (8) An authorized law enforcement representative of a city, county, city and county, or state or federal government shall present written authorization from the head of the agency authorizing the ammunition purchase or transfer, as described by Penal Code section 30352, subdivision (e)(7).
        (9) A properly identified sworn peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 of Title 3 of Part 2 of the Penal Code, who is authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of the officer's duties, shall present both:
        (A) A sworn state or local peace officer's credential, and
        (B) Verifiable written certification from the head of the agency, as described by Penal Code section 30352, subdivision (e)(8)(B)(i). The verifiable written certification from the head of the agency expires 30 days after issuance.

        (10) A properly identified sworn federal law enforcement officer, who is authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of the officer's duties, shall present both:
        (A) A sworn federal law enforcement officer's credential, and
        (B) Verifiable written certification from the head of the agency, as described by Penal Code section 30352, subdivision (e)(8)(B)(i). The verifiable written certification from the head of the agency expires 30 days after issuance.
        (b) For persons identified pursuant to subdivisions (a)(9) and (10) of this section, the ammunition vendor shall keep a photocopy of the front and back of the credential and the identification document provided pursuant to subdivision (c) of this section, along with the original verifiable written certification from the head of the agency. The ammunition vendor shall make a copy of these records available to the Department upon request.
        (1) If the law enforcement agency does not allow photocopies to be made of the credential, the ammunition vendor shall retain a business card from the sworn law enforcement officer after personally viewing the credential.
        (c) At the time of delivery, the ammunition vendor COE holder, authorized associate, or salesperson shall require the purchaser or transferee to provide an identification document that meets the requirements of Penal Code section 16300, to verify that the person who is receiving delivery of the ammunition is the person exempted pursuant to Penal Code section 30352, subdivision (e).
        (d) Once the ammunition vendor has verified that the individual is exempt from Department approval to purchase or transfer ammunition, the ammunition vendor may process an ammunition purchase or transfer without Department approval.

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        • #5
          Tyke8319
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Nov 2013
          • 2105

          That's a good "I got cha".
          American soldier by choice. Made in America by the Grace of God.

          So, now it is ironic that the State whittles away at the right of its citizens to defend themselves from the possible oppression of their State.
          Judge Roger T. Benitez
          LCM's ruled legal 3/29/2019

          Comment

          • #6
            LJ Guns
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Jul 2013
            • 228

            Any of you know of a good/cheap barcode reader for ammo? I'm a home based FFL with a "day job" so it's never been worthwhile for me to mess with ammo sales. Current climate forcing me to reconsider.

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            • #7
              taperxz
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2010
              • 19395

              Originally posted by LJ Guns
              Any of you know of a good/cheap barcode reader for ammo? I'm a home based FFL with a "day job" so it's never been worthwhile for me to mess with ammo sales. Current climate forcing me to reconsider.

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              • #8
                LJ Guns
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Jul 2013
                • 228

                Thank you!

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