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  • HYPURR
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    • Feb 2013
    • 462

    Ship Long Gun within CA

    Thought to ask the more knowledgeable than I.

    Legal as a "Regular Human" to ship Long Gun to receiving FFL within CA for the buyer to transfer without me there?

    CA Compliant M&P 10

    Thanks for the info. Best, Dave
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    CSACANNONEER
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    • Dec 2006
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    It's legal to mail long guns via USPS. Yes, it's legal to mail one to a FFL in or out of CA but, you need to check with the receiving FFL first. Many do not accept shipments from non FFLs because, too many morons do not include any paperwork or explanation with the firearm.
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      ronlglock
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      • May 2011
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      Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
      It's legal to mail long guns via USPS. Yes, it's legal to mail one to a FFL in or out of CA but, you need to check with the receiving FFL first. Many do not accept shipments from non FFLs because, too many morons do not include any paperwork or explanation with the firearm.


      And speaking of USPS, our postmaster said that we can only ship ground and have to put our FFL in a window envelope on the outside. Does that sound right?
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        downsouth
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        • Dec 2015
        • 104

        Originally posted by ronlglock
        And speaking of USPS, our postmaster said that we can only ship ground and have to put our FFL in a window envelope on the outside. Does that sound right?
        You shouldn't put anything outside, USPS guidelines say:

        No markings of any kind that indicate the nature of the contents may be placed on the outside wrapper or container of any mailpiece containing firearms.

        from https://pe.usps.com/text/pub52/pub52c4_009.htm

        And

        A nonlicensee may not transfer a firearm to a non-licensed resident of another State. A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. The Postal Service recommends that long guns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.

        [18 U.S.C. 1715, 922(a)(3), 922(a)(5) and 922 (a)(2)(A)]

        From the ATF.

        I recommend having the paperwork inside the box with at least some contact info. USPS flat rate will run from $30+ depending on insurance and weight.

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          • Oct 2005
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          Originally posted by ronlglock
          And speaking of USPS, our postmaster said that we can only ship ground and have to put our FFL in a window envelope on the outside. Does that sound right?
          If you are an FFL, you may mail handguns - USPS says
          432.24 Certificate of Manufacturers, Dealers, and Importers

          A federal firearms licensee manufacturer, dealer, or importer need not file the affidavit under 432.22, but must file with the Postmaster a statement on PS Form 1508, Statement by Shipper of Firearms, signed by the mailer that he or she is a licensed manufacturer, dealer, or importer of firearms. The mailer must also state that the parcels containing handguns, or parts and components of handguns under 432.2d, are being mailed in customary trade shipments or contain such articles for repairing or replacing parts, and that to the best of their knowledge the addressees are licensed manufacturers, dealers, or importers of firearms. Registered Mail service is recommended.

          Postmasters may forward an unsatisfactory mailer statement to the PCSC for a ruling.
          "file with the Postmaster" does not mean "put our FFL in a window envelope on the outside".
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