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  • SISKIN
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2017
    • 872

    PPT in another state

    Question. Can 2 Cailfornia residents do a PPT in another state. Reason i am going to be up in Reno later this week and a Friend of mine who i have know for over 40 years who lives in Susanville,CA wants to by something from me.
  • #2
    sbo80
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 2265

    I think "No" is the short answer. You may be able to legally do a transfer in NV depending on their state laws, but it isn't a CA PPT, so if they want to bring the gun back into CA it still needs to transfer through a CA FFL. So there wouldn't be a point to it.

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    • #3
      SISKIN
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2017
      • 872

      Just about what i thought,but it never hurts to ask. So i'll bring it with me anyway and just let him shoot it .. thanks

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      • #4
        Milsurp1
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2016
        • 3091

        Why not take it to an FFL dealer in NV and have it transferred to him? Forget the PPT language, it is simply a transfer.

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        • #5
          Milsurp1
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2016
          • 3091

          Disregard, I see where the transferee is not a NV resident.

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          • #6
            edgerly779
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Aug 2009
            • 19871

            you both have to be in ca to do a dros. ftf. drive over to Tahoe any gun shop there can do dros. There are 5 storefront gun shops there.

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            • #7
              sfe187
              Banned
              • Sep 2016
              • 1770

              Does both of you have FFL 03? and are the in question guns c&r?

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              • #8
                kemasa
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jun 2005
                • 10706

                No, you are a CA resident and NV dealers can't follow CA law and submit a CA DROS.

                If it was a C&R and the receiver has a C&R FFL, then it could be acquired out of state, as long as it is reported when it is brought back.

                Using a Tahoe dealer would work, but there is the waiting period.

                Is it an off roster handgun? If not, ship it to a CA FFL near the receiver.
                Kemasa.
                False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

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                • #9
                  Quiet
                  retired Goon
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 30242

                  FYI.

                  NV laws have changed.

                  Starting 01-02-2020...

                  All firearm transfers in NV must be done through a NV FFL dealer.
                  ^Exemptions to this are:
                  1. Transfers to & from a Gov/Mil/LE agency to an authorized employee.
                  2. Transfers of antique firearms.
                  3. Transfers between immediate family members.
                  4. Transfers from a deceased person to the executor/administrator of the deceased person's estate.
                  5. Temporary transfer to a non-prohibited person to use in defense against immediate bodily injury or death and the transfer only lasting until the threat is ended.
                  6. Temporary transfer to a non-prohibited person:
                  A. at an established/licensed shooting range.
                  B. at an organized/sponsored competition.
                  C. for participation in a performance.
                  D. with valid NV hunting license for the duration of the hunting season the firearm is intended to be used in.
                  E. while in the immediate presence of the owner.

                  There are no exemptions for C&R firearms and for persons with valid C&R 03-FFLs.
                  Which means all C&R firearms must be transferred through a NV FFL dealer, regardless if the transferee has a valid C&R FFL.

                  NV FFL dealers can only transfer Title 1 Rifle or Title 1 Shotgun to a non-resident of NV.
                  If the non-resident of NV has a valid C&R FFL, then the NV FFL dealer can transfer C&R firearms to that person.
                  Last edited by Quiet; 01-06-2020, 3:42 AM.
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                  • #10
                    SISKIN
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2017
                    • 872

                    No it is not C&R...Guess we will just take a trip to Thaoe ,Cali side, and i get to go skiing..Thanks for all the help

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                    • #11
                      edgerly779
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 19871

                      Make sure both have all id's for dros. Buyer needs ca I/d or D/L and another proof of address and fsc..

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                      • #12
                        kemasa
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 10706

                        Originally posted by SISKIN
                        No it is not C&R...Guess we will just take a trip to Thaoe ,Cali side, and i get to go skiing..Thanks for all the help
                        Is the person getting the gun going to be able to go back in 10 days? That is the waiting period.

                        Make sure that there are no federal limits apply ID/DL or you have the additional documents.
                        Kemasa.
                        False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                        Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

                        Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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                        • #13
                          SISKIN
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2017
                          • 872

                          Yes he has all his paperwork . DL is good to go NO federal limits apply. He also has a CCW for the county he lives in for Cailfornia. Lucky(%^*!@@$).He is all good to come back in 10 days.. Once again Thanks for all the help

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                          • #14
                            Aeneas
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 1127

                            Originally posted by Quiet
                            FYI.

                            NV laws have changed.

                            Starting 01-02-2020...

                            All firearm transfers in NV must be done through a NV FFL dealer.
                            ^Exemptions to this are:
                            1. Transfers to & from a Gov/Mil/LE agency to an authorized employee.
                            2. Transfers of antique firearms.
                            3. Transfers between immediate family members.
                            4. Transfers from a deceased person to the executor/administrator of the deceased person's estate.
                            5. Temporary transfer to a non-prohibited person to use in defense against immediate bodily injury or death and the transfer only lasting until the threat is ended.
                            6. Temporary transfer to a non-prohibited person:
                            A. at an established/licensed shooting range.
                            B. at an organized/sponsored competition.
                            C. for participation in a performance.
                            D. with valid NV hunting license for the duration of the hunting season the firearm is intended to be used in.
                            E. while in the immediate presence of the owner.

                            There are no exemptions for C&R firearms and for persons with valid C&R 03-FFLs.
                            Which means all C&R firearms must be transferred through a NV FFL dealer, regardless if the transferee has a valid C&R FFL.

                            NV FFL dealers can only transfer Title 1 Rifle or Title 1 Shotgun to a non-resident of NV.
                            If the non-resident of NV has a valid C&R FFL, then the NV FFL dealer can transfer C&R firearms to that person.
                            And the death of 1000 cuts begins in Nevada...

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