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  • #16
    DEPUTYBILL
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 873

    Originally posted by alland
    The S&W short firing pin problem is a well known, well documented, and often discussed FACT.
    Documented where?

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    • #17
      alland
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 565

      Originally posted by DEPUTYBILL
      Documented where?
      Smith-wessonforum.com, midway, brownells and cylinder and slide sites all have information about the short firing pin problem. Smith&Wesson service department installs a long firing pin when they receive a light strike warranty return.

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      • #18
        SoldierLife7
        Joe Exotic For President
        CGN Contributor
        • Apr 2013
        • 2420

        The CA model will have an “A” after the SKU number...not only on the roster but it will also be on the box it is shipped in from S&W.

        If you find it cheaper somewhere, contact them and ask if there is an “A” after the SKU. If there isn’t, it is NOT CA approved.

        I would also recommend asking local FFL what their transfer fees are. Once you pay shipping and transfer fees, it is often cheaper to order local.

        Where are you located?

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        • #19
          Tyke8319
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Nov 2013
          • 2105

          Originally posted by alland
          Smith-wessonforum.com, midway, brownells and cylinder and slide sites all have information about the short firing pin problem. Smith&Wesson service department installs a long firing pin when they receive a light strike warranty return.
          Then your assertion that S&W installs short firing pins in guns so they can pass the California drop test has no validity. There is no way S&W knows in advance what guns will be shipped to CA or any other state unless they are sent directly to some entity under contract.

          I found no references under any of the sites that you indicate that speak to manufactured short firing pins. There were references regarding light strikes under varying circumstances that could have been caused by a number of conditions. For quite obvious reasons gun parts that are manufactured by quality firearms manufactures are produced to exacting standards. Inferring that S&W produces and installs parts contrary to standards is, in my opinion, irresponsible.
          BTW, the letter "A"/"B" under the top strap merely reflects updated models and has, apparently, no reference to CA models.
          American soldier by choice. Made in America by the Grace of God.

          So, now it is ironic that the State whittles away at the right of its citizens to defend themselves from the possible oppression of their State.
          Judge Roger T. Benitez
          LCM's ruled legal 3/29/2019

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          • #20
            Tyke8319
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Nov 2013
            • 2105

            Let me rephrase my last statement.
            The "A"/"B", etc, indicates models that have been re-tested by S&W to insure their passing Calif. testing and subsequently approved for the Calif. market.
            American soldier by choice. Made in America by the Grace of God.

            So, now it is ironic that the State whittles away at the right of its citizens to defend themselves from the possible oppression of their State.
            Judge Roger T. Benitez
            LCM's ruled legal 3/29/2019

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            • #21
              alland
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 565

              Originally posted by Tyke8319
              Then your assertion that S&W installs short firing pins in guns so they can pass the California drop test has no validity. There is no way S&W knows in advance what guns will be shipped to CA or any other state unless they are sent directly to some entity under contract.

              I found no references under any of the sites that you indicate that speak to manufactured short firing pins. There were references regarding light strikes under varying circumstances that could have been caused by a number of conditions. For quite obvious reasons gun parts that are manufactured by quality firearms manufactures are produced to exacting standards. Inferring that S&W produces and installs parts contrary to standards is, in my opinion, irresponsible.
              BTW, the letter "A"/"B" under the top strap merely reflects updated models and has, apparently, no reference to CA models.
              You are certainly free to believe what you want, but the short firing pin in some rostered revolvers is FACT.

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              • #22
                SoldierLife7
                Joe Exotic For President
                CGN Contributor
                • Apr 2013
                • 2420

                You guys need to hug it out and move on.

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                • #23
                  alland
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 565

                  Originally posted by Tyke8319
                  Let me rephrase my last statement.
                  The "A"/"B", etc, indicates models that have been re-tested by S&W to insure their passing Calif. testing and subsequently approved for the Calif. market.
                  At least a few of the A/B marked California models passed the drop test as a result of the shorter firing pins.

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                  • #24
                    Tyke8319
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 2105

                    Originally posted by alland
                    At least a few of the A/B marked California models passed the drop test as a result of the shorter firing pins.
                    I have never heard of this nor is there any truth to it at all. This is not something the Smith & Wesson would ever do. Thank You for choosing Smith & Wesson / Thompson Center products. Have a great day.
                    Smith & Wesson values its customers and we are happy to have served you today. Please do not hesitate to contact us should you require further assistance.
                    Regards, Steve

                    Hopefully this will put an end to such stupidity unless some just refuse to believe the truth.
                    American soldier by choice. Made in America by the Grace of God.

                    So, now it is ironic that the State whittles away at the right of its citizens to defend themselves from the possible oppression of their State.
                    Judge Roger T. Benitez
                    LCM's ruled legal 3/29/2019

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