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[Nardo1895]

is an exemption. I find it curious that the exemption applies whether or not the buyer is a C&R holder. The ATF requirement does apply for PPTs of non-C&R handguns, correct?

Thanks

[acespawnshop]

Ours should have had the multi handgun at the bottom maybe I sent you an old version!

No multi rifle on receivers.

[Nardo1895]

Ours should have had the multi handgun at the bottom maybe I sent you an old version!

No, you're right, it did. I forgot about it because it was below your table.

That's what I though about the receivers, but before I got my license I was told ATF would be notified when I bought three stripped lowers. Maybe an ill-informed Dealer.

Thanks again for sharing your list.

Mike

[acespawnshop]

Twas an ill-informed dealer sir. Also Its interesting that the term "dealer" most likely means the noob working the counter in most cases.

[kemasa]

Do the ATF reports of Multiple Sale of Certain Rifles, and Report of Multiple Sale of Pistols and Revolvers apply to PPTs? I assume they do as I see no such exceptions discussed on the instructions page.

There isn't any exception for how the person gets the firearms. The Feds don't know or care about PPTs for the most part. There was a change on the 4473 regarding that, but that was due to issues which don't apply to CA.

Do they apply to C&Rs? The instructions on both of the forms indicate they apply for sales or transfers to A C&R holder is licensed for C&Rs so I conclude they are exempt.

To C&Rs, yes, unless the buyer is licensed with a C&R license and is buying a C&R firearm. Your question is unclear in some respects.

No, as the caliber isn't over .22, look at all the requirements.

As I understand it, the ATF requirement for proving a handgun safety devise is not waived by the DOJ gunsafe exemption form. However, is an exemption. I find it curious that the exemption applies whether or not the buyer is a C&R holder. The ATF requirement does apply for PPTs of non-C&R handguns, correct?

Again, the Feds don't really know or care about PPTs, so it is the same regardless of who they buy the firearm from.

There is no listed requirements by the Feds, which they were supposed to do, but didn't.

Thanks

[Nardo1895]

To C&Rs, yes, unless the buyer is licensed with a C&R license and is buying a C&R firearm. Your question is unclear in some respects.


No, as the caliber isn't over .22, look at all the requirements.

I'm pretty good at unclear questions :-). You answered it though.

The instructions state "... Semi-automatic rifles larger than .22 caliber (including .223/5.56 caliber)..." I read that to mean .223/5.56 is subject to notification. However, I still don't think it applies to a lower because its not yet semi-auto and it does not yet have a detachable magazine. I suppose its also not yet larger than .22 as you could mate it with a 22 LR upper. Depends on how you built it.

[kemasa]

Correct, but you only need one to make it not apply. It isn't semi-auto, it isn't a caliber over .22, no detachable magazine, it doesn't have to none of them, only not one of them.

If it has no barrel, there isn't a caliber and if there isn't a caliber, then it can't be a caliber over .22

What might happen in the future doesn't matter to the present condition of it.