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  • ugimports
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Jun 2009
    • 6250

    Customers Breaking Laws

    Why do customers insist on telling FFLs the laws they are going to break or are currently breaking? Do they think we are their lawyers and what they tell us is privileged information?

    I have a customer that canceled an ammo transfer since they are going to Arizona soon.. I mentioned to them that the couldn't bring any ammo back and their response was basically "wink wink of course I won't bring anything back blah blah blah..."

    Why document stuff like that in writing and email nonetheless?

    I've had other customers tell me the full auto stuff they have at their mountain house in Cali, etc..
    UG Imports - Fremont, CA FFL - Transfers, New Gun Sales
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  • #2
    acespawnshop
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jun 2012
    • 2852

    Overheard while in Sam's guns in Lake Havasu City Arizona this weekend. So, my mother and father in law live out there and he has a couple firearms and knows a little about guns but isn't a super enthusiast byany means. So naturally while we are there for the weekend he is asking me about guns and wants to buy a few things for his AR-15. He needed a Magpul MBUS and off to the gun store we went Sunday am so he could buy his sling, MBUS and a rifle case. While he was checking out I was roaming around the store looking at their inventory mostly seeing what they had out for sale. Not really interested in anything they have. I overhear the customer doing his 4473 ask for extra Magazines for the AR he was buying and the clerk say, "Oh, its Sunday we are out because everyone from CA comes across the river and they buy all the stuff they cant have in CA. We should have more in stock around Tuesday."

    So, to answer your question UG I would say that it happens frequently. I like how the gun community throws around the phrase "law abiding gun owners" then snub the CA laws they don't agree with.

    Not that I agree with these laws either, but I do believe in the fact that we are a free enough country and if you don't like how CA operates then either vote in better legislators and governors or move out of the state.
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    • #3
      kemasa
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jun 2005
      • 10706

      Why? Simple, people are stupid.
      Kemasa.
      False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

      Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

      Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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      • #4
        Divehobo
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 1271

        ^^^this
        NRA Pistol, Rifle, CCW and Metallic Reloading instructor

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        • #5
          jeffyhog
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 2759

          The laws have become so asinine that even people who consider themselves law-abiding see no reason to follow these laws. And they don't see the point in hiding the fact.

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          • #6
            audiophil2
            Senior Member
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jan 2007
            • 8736

            Sometimes I feel like I'm some cross of a priest and a bartender. I get some special customers telling all sorts of stuff. When they are saying it right next to an ATF auditor or local LEO I just watch the dance when they get called out on it.

            Sad thing is I can tell who is lying and who is telling the truth and those people are not what I expect.
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            • #7
              WiddleCabinet ma’am
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Jan 2011
              • 2491

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              • #8
                Yodaman
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 2749

                Originally posted by kemasa
                Why? Simple, people are stupid.


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                • #9
                  taperxz
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 19395

                  We had a customer try to PPT a WW2 grease gun in front of a local plain clothes detective. Seriously!

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                  • #10
                    kemasa
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 10706

                    Originally posted by taperxz
                    We had a customer try to PPT a WW2 grease gun in front of a local plain clothes detective. Seriously!
                    At least the customer was doing the transfer at a dealer as required by law :-).
                    Kemasa.
                    False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                    Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

                    Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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                    • #11
                      ugimports
                      Vendor/Retailer
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 6250

                      Originally posted by taperxz
                      We had a customer try to PPT a WW2 grease gun in front of a local plain clothes detective. Seriously!
                      What happened?
                      UG Imports - Fremont, CA FFL - Transfers, New Gun Sales
                      Closure Schedule: http://ugimports.com/closed
                      web​ / email / vendor forum

                      I AM THE MAJORITY!!!

                      Amazon Links Posted May be Paid Links

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                      • #12
                        taperxz
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 19395

                        Originally posted by kemasa
                        At least the customer was doing the transfer at a dealer as required by law :-).
                        Originally posted by ugimports
                        What happened?

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                        • #13
                          taperxz
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 19395

                          Ha! We also had a pair of marines try to ppt a short barrel rifle. AR 15.

                          Somehow it met overall length but with a cough cough kinda short barrel. They went out of their way to make that overall length lol.

                          I laughed, said no! Seller then splits the gun in half and wants to PPT the lower. Lol, told him to have a nice day.

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                          • #14
                            Burbur
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 1258

                            Originally posted by audiophil2
                            Sometimes I feel like I'm some cross of a priest and a bartender. I get some special customers telling all sorts of stuff. When they are saying it right next to an ATF auditor or local LEO I just watch the dance when they get called out on it.

                            Sad thing is I can tell who is lying and who is telling the truth and those people are not what I expect.
                            X2 to everything

                            and to the comment that even law abiding citizens don't give a **** anymore.

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                            • #15
                              Coolguy101
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2011
                              • 655

                              I used to have guys come up to our table at gunshows where we sold 10/30 mags. I would see them look at the rivets or welds (depending on the mag), and see the wheels turning in their head. I would silently say to myself "don't do it - don't say what you are thinking," but inevitably the moron would say "I can just take these rivets out or dremel these welds off...." and I would tell them "no you can't, because I'm not selling you this mag anymore." They would act all shocked and wonder why, and I would tell them that they just publicly stated that they intend the break the law, and why didn't they keep their big mouth shut?

                              Its just like how some guys on the forum run their mouths about how they conceal carry without a license. Why run your mouth on a public forum that you are breaking the law? It makes them feel cool to do that, but they really aren't cool at all.

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