Sell to in-state FFL

[bbb1234]

I am thinking sell/transfer a handgun to an in-state FFL gun shop.

1) I only need ID (driver license, I have the real ID one). Correct?

2) No background check on me. Correct?

3) What documents should I keep?

4) If I sell to in-state FFL, do I need to fill out BOF 4546 "no longer in possession"?

(I know I get less money by selling to FFL gun shop. But I don't like meeting stranger about gun or worry about whether he could pass the DROS background check.)

[dvs762]

Selling to an FFL is easy. Some FFL have a pawn licence some don't. Either way there is paperwork you have to sign and provide a thumb print. The gun is checked against stolen records and can't be sold for 21 days. You as the seller are looked at as well as the gun just like a DROS. You don't need to declare no longer in possession as the doj will already know the FFL is in possession.

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[bbb1234]

You as the seller are looked at ... just like a DROS

Thanks for your reply. You comment quoted above, do you mean they will run background check (NICS) on me?

[dvs762]

I'm sure they do. We have to get your signature and finger print just like a DROS. They check to see if you are selling stolen guns I believe or are not supposed to even have guns.

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[shootsocal_dave]

When you FDAS a firearm it checks the gun against the Automated firearms system AFS to see if it’s beem reported stolen. It shouldn’t run your background because many people selling or disposing of firearms are doing so because they are prohibited. I think it only runs your info if you want to return the firearm and they are running a DROS. If the gun comes up stolen, the detective in charge will contact you and may start an investigation given the circumstances. Sometimes if a gun was stolen 30 years ago at a gun show they don’t worry about the (current) seller and are more worried about recovering the property.

[P5Ret]

Keep in mind that if it is an off roster firearm your going to get much less than it is worth even outside of Ca. The dealer can only sell it to someone exempt. I don't know how true it is, but I have heard of some dealer's not wanting to buy off roster guns, since they may be stuck with them. Of course this was older guns that there may not be much of a market for among the exempt crowd.

[bbb1234]

[shootsocal_dave]

If he did a fdas in DES you don’t need to do a NLIP just keep the receipt from the dealer for your record. I’m not sure if it would show up in AFS or not, the SN should be removed if it was the same as when you purchased it. But you can always get a record from the DOJ to double check. The NLIP form is free so you can do that as a triple check but is probably redundant.

[Burbur]

When you FDAS a firearm it is supposed to

fixed it for you.

I have had 5 guns in three years clear FDAS/DROS Acquisition + 30 days and then pop as stolen when I DROS it to it's new home months later.

[acespawnshop]

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[bbb1234]

fixed it for you.

I have had 5 guns in three years clear FDAS/DROS Acquisition + 30 days and then pop as stolen when I DROS it to it's new home months later.

I am 100% sure my gun is not stolen because I am the first owner. But just to want to sleep better at night, can I check if my serial is in some lost gun database? I have almost zero trust to gov data systems and I sometimes worried they have mistakes.

[shootsocal_dave]

I am 100% sure my gun is not stolen because I am the first owner. But just to want to sleep better at night, can I check if my serial is in some lost gun database? I have almost zero trust to gov data systems and I sometimes worried they have mistakes.

AFS is the only system that matters. Lost gun databases are nothing more than good luck and hope. The AFS the only one that is checked as far as I know.