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  • RoundEye
    CGSSA Director
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    • Mar 2010
    • 3671

    Potential "unknown" RAW Transfer?

    With the recently passed laws, and the new class of AWs, how do we as FFLs prevent someone from transferring a RAW via PPT?

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    Scenario:

    Customer brings in a stripped lower, non-semi automatic AR Pattern rifle, or a now fixed magazine rifle (AR Maglock or whatnot) for a PPT, but the lower is registered. However, he doesn't disclose this, so you do the transfer like normal.

    For the sake of this post, let's assume the FFL is an 01 without a DW / AW permit.
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    So now the FFL is holding a RAW (not in AW configuration) for a PPT transaction.

    My guess is that the DROS would get either delayed or denied, and the CADOJ would be paying the FFL a visit.

    Edit: I guess this could have always happened before as well (except with name receivers maybe). However, it seems far more likely now, hence the question.
    Last edited by RoundEye; 07-26-2018, 4:48 PM.
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    taperxz
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    • Feb 2010
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    Originally posted by RoundEye
    With the recently passed laws, and the new class of AWs, how do we as FFLs prevent someone from transferring a RAW via PPT?

    --
    Scenario:

    Customer brings in a stripped lower, non-semi automatic AR Pattern rifle, or a now fixed magazine rifle (AR Maglock or whatnot) for a PPT, but the lower is registered. However, he doesn't disclose this, so you do the transfer like normal.

    For the sake of this post, let's assume the FFL is an 01 without a DW / AW permit.
    --

    So now the FFL is holding a RAW (not in AW configuration) for a PPT transaction.

    My guess is that the DROS would get either delayed or denied, and the CADOJ would be paying the FFL a visit.

    Edit: I guess this could have always happened before as well (except with name receivers maybe). However, it seems far more likely now, hence the question.
    It would probably throw up a red flag, as long as it wasn't configured as an AW with a BB and evil features, i don't see how they could charge the FFL. Would they request pics or perhaps a DOJ visit? IDK

    They could stop the process and force the owner to de-register it prior to a PPT?

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      RoundEye
      CGSSA Director
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Mar 2010
      • 3671

      Originally posted by taperxz
      It would probably throw up a red flag, as long as it wasn't configured as an AW with a BB and evil features, i don't see how they could charge the FFL. Would they request pics or perhaps a DOJ visit? IDK

      They could stop the process and force the owner to de-register it prior to a PPT?
      That was my thought, I am sure the DOJ would pay visit to the FFL. However, I'm not sure what punishments there would be for the dealer if any. For the seller on the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up being charged with a crime.

      We're thinking of adding a sentence to our PPT acknowledgement having the selling and buyer attest that the firearm to be transferred is not a RAW.
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