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  • bbb1234
    Junior Member
    • May 2018
    • 9

    Database for FFL Audit Errors

    Does the ATF (or CA DOJ) holds a "searchable" database for the errors they find in FFL audit? If so, will that database contains the buyer's identification?

    Long story here:
    Some time ago I bought a new handgun from an FFL dealer (large retail shop, not gun show). DROS is approved and I took delivery after 10 day wait period. So far so good. However, after ~ 1 month since I took delivery, the shop called me and said they were being audited and they don't have copy for one of my paperwork that shows I am eligible for firearm purchase. So I went back and let them make a copy. The shop said I was all set.

    Recently I began to thought about a problem. When ATF audited the shop and found out the issue, do they keep track of the error in a database and is my identification in that database?

    I am asking because now I need to do a FBI criminal background check (the rap sheet, I believe) and Name check (name check is to search FBI files to see if I am an subject of investigation or if I am mentioned in an investigation). I hope the incident will not show up in those checks.
  • #2
    Tyke8319
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Nov 2013
    • 2105

    To answer your question, not to my knowledge. If the LGS had a problem it would be their problem and I doubt you as an individual were the "target" of that situation...just the missing piece of paperwork.
    Personally, I think it's a non-issue...with regards to you as an individual.
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    So, now it is ironic that the State whittles away at the right of its citizens to defend themselves from the possible oppression of their State.
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    • #3
      shootsocal_dave
      Vendor/Retailer
      • Sep 2016
      • 1447

      Originally posted by bbb1234
      Does the ATF (or CA DOJ) holds a "searchable" database for the errors they find in FFL audit? If so, will that database contains the buyer's identification?

      Long story here:
      Some time ago I bought a new handgun from an FFL dealer (large retail shop, not gun show). DROS is approved and I took delivery after 10 day wait period. So far so good. However, after ~ 1 month since I took delivery, the shop called me and said they were being audited and they don't have copy for one of my paperwork that shows I am eligible for firearm purchase. So I went back and let them make a copy. The shop said I was all set.

      Recently I began to thought about a problem. When ATF audited the shop and found out the issue, do they keep track of the error in a database and is my identification in that database?

      I am asking because now I need to do a FBI criminal background check (the rap sheet, I believe) and Name check (name check is to search FBI files to see if I am an subject of investigation or if I am mentioned in an investigation). I hope the incident will not show up in those checks.
      I am a bit confused by these questions. FIRST, what paperwork shows your eligable to own a firearm? Was it a C&R gun and they needed the COE? Was it the APPROVED copy of the DROS they needed signature and thumbprint on? Because the approval comes from DOJ... NOT something you provide.

      Also, nothing you do at a gun shop would effect your background check, unless you were denied and lied on the forms or something like that. I think that you have a lack of knowledge of how this works and may be thinking into it a little too much. In my humble opinion. If you could elaborate, then we could help you more. But no, there really isn't a "database" on stuff like that, and as long as you passed our background check and didn't lie about anything, the paperwork issues are the dealers issues to fix, and don't really concern you, other than them asking you to come sign something or provide a copy of something.
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      • #4
        bbb1234
        Junior Member
        • May 2018
        • 9

        Originally posted by shootsocal_dave
        I am a bit confused by these questions. FIRST, what paperwork shows your eligable to own a firearm? Was it a C&R gun and they needed the COE? Was it the APPROVED copy of the DROS they needed signature and thumbprint on? Because the approval comes from DOJ... NOT something
        They forget to make a copy of my ID.

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        • #5
          shootsocal_dave
          Vendor/Retailer
          • Sep 2016
          • 1447

          AHH ok, so that is WAYY less of a bid deal than you made it seem.

          Funny part, if they slide your ID, TECHNICALLY there isn't a requirement to take a copy of it. But theres no way to prove you slid or not so some companies just take a photocopy every time no matter what out of policy.
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          • #6
            acespawnshop
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
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            • Jun 2012
            • 2852

            Originally posted by bbb1234
            They forget to make a copy of my ID.
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            • #7
              shootsocal_dave
              Vendor/Retailer
              • Sep 2016
              • 1447

              Thats where I was getting lol
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              • #8
                acespawnshop
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
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                • Jun 2012
                • 2852

                Originally posted by shootsocal_dave
                Thats where I was getting lol
                Bro, look at the time stamp of the posts. We put them up at the same time.
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                • #9
                  shootsocal_dave
                  Vendor/Retailer
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 1447

                  I like how you think***
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