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  • ap3572001
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2007
    • 6039

    PPT vs dealer sale .

    When a person actually sells/trades a handgun (s) to a Ca FFL , it does count as a PPT. Correct ?
  • #2
    shootsocal_dave
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Sep 2016
    • 1447

    No, it counts as a "buy" and is subject to Roster and 1/30.
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    • #3
      ap3572001
      Calguns Addict
      • Jun 2007
      • 6039

      Originally posted by shootsocal_dave
      No, it counts as a "buy" and is subject to Roster and 1/30.
      I am not worried roster or 1 in 30. I was asking about if a person sells/trades handguns to a CA FFL , does that count against 5 or less PPT's per calendar year ?

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      • #4
        shootsocal_dave
        Vendor/Retailer
        • Sep 2016
        • 1447

        You got me. I have never heard about how that law works, how its enforced. I know its on the books, but never heard of it coming up. I see the same sellers all the time.
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        • #5
          taperxz
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Feb 2010
          • 19395

          Originally posted by ap3572001
          I am not worried roster or 1 in 30. I was asking about if a person sells/trades handguns to a CA FFL , does that count against 5 or less PPT's per calendar year ?
          Yes it would.

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          • #6
            ap3572001
            Calguns Addict
            • Jun 2007
            • 6039

            Originally posted by taperxz
            Yes it would.
            So a person who sells a gun to a gun store made a PPT?

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            • #7
              taperxz
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2010
              • 19395

              Originally posted by ap3572001
              So a person who sells a gun to a gun store made a PPT?
              What does a PPT have to do with ATF stating that you are limited to a certain amount of sales in a year?

              A sale to a gun store is not different than a sale to a non licensned individual.

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              • #8
                kemasa
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jun 2005
                • 10706

                Originally posted by taperxz
                What does a PPT have to do with ATF stating that you are limited to a certain amount of sales in a year?

                A sale to a gun store is not different than a sale to a non licensned individual.
                CA has limits as well.

                It might count since the FFL would need to acquire it and that would get recorded. It is different since it would be for inventory and no DROS is done.
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                • #9
                  taperxz
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 19395

                  Originally posted by kemasa
                  CA has limits as well.

                  It might count since the FFL would need to acquire it and that would get recorded. It is different since it would be for inventory and no DROS is done.
                  True but for the seller, a sale is a sale.

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                  • #10
                    kemasa
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 10706

                    Originally posted by taperxz
                    True but for the seller, a sale is a sale.
                    Except that some sales are recorded and reported to the CA DOJ and others are not.
                    Kemasa.
                    False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                    Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

                    Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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                    • #11
                      taperxz
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 19395

                      Originally posted by kemasa
                      Except that some sales are recorded and reported to the CA DOJ and others are not.

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                      • #12
                        kemasa
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 10706

                        If it is shipped out of state.
                        Kemasa.
                        False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                        Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

                        Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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                        • #13
                          taperxz
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 19395

                          Originally posted by kemasa
                          If it is shipped out of state.
                          There is that.

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