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  • Svashtar
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    • Apr 2017
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    FFL Handgun Transfer Question

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    kemasa
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    • Jun 2005
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    There is a wiki with the info on when PPTs had to go through a FFL, see below, it was 1991.

    The department might want the firearm listed under your name to have it on a CCW. If that is the case, you can use the voluntary reporting for on the CA DOJ firearms web page. If they don't require it, then you don't need to do anything.

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      Tyke8319
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      • Nov 2013
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      D.O.J. will require that any handgun on your CCW permit has to be a "registered" handgun. Locally, my S.O. requires it as well.
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      So, now it is ironic that the State whittles away at the right of its citizens to defend themselves from the possible oppression of their State.
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        Svashtar
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        • Apr 2017
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        Originally posted by kemasa
        There is a wiki with the info on when PPTs had to go through a FFL, see below, it was 1991.



        The department might want the firearm listed under your name to have it on a CCW. If that is the case, you can use the voluntary reporting for on the CA DOJ firearms web page. If they don't require it, then you don't need to do anything.



        http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...ealers.2C_1991


        Great, thanks for the info. That links answers a lot of questions.


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          Svashtar
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          • Apr 2017
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          FFL Handgun Transfer Question

          Originally posted by Tyke8319
          D.O.J. will require that any handgun on your CCW permit has to be a "registered" handgun. Locally, my S.O. requires it as well.
          Last edited by Svashtar; 03-08-2018, 8:11 AM.
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            Svashtar
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              Tyke8319
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              D.O.J. will do a background check on you and the gun. Per D.O.J. it must be a registered handgun. I've had CCW recipients who wanted to carry their inherited (unregistered) handguns and were advised by D.O.J that they couldn't due to it being an unregistered. Some were subsequently registered and some chose not to.
              American soldier by choice. Made in America by the Grace of God.

              So, now it is ironic that the State whittles away at the right of its citizens to defend themselves from the possible oppression of their State.
              Judge Roger T. Benitez
              LCM's ruled legal 3/29/2019

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              • #8
                caliguy93
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                • Jun 2016
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                Originally posted by Tyke8319
                D.O.J. will do a background check on you and the gun. Per D.O.J. it must be a registered handgun. I've had CCW recipients who wanted to carry their inherited (unregistered) handguns and were advised by D.O.J that they couldn't due to it being an unregistered. Some were subsequently registered and some chose not to.

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                  Svashtar
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                  • Apr 2017
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                  Last edited by Svashtar; 03-08-2018, 10:22 AM.
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                    kemasa
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                    • Jun 2005
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                    You are assuming that they really care. If it listed as stolen, then they might do something, otherwise they like to know who owns what, which comes close to gun registration.
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                      taperxz
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                      Originally posted by Tyke8319
                      D.O.J. will require that any handgun on your CCW permit has to be a "registered" handgun. Locally, my S.O. requires it as well.
                      Not a DOJ thing. Its only your Sheriff doing that.

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                      • #12
                        Librarian
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                        • Oct 2005
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                        Same issue with anything bought before 1991 and not subsequently transferred in CA 1991 or later.

                        Despite the apparent wishes of some politicians, it is not the law in CA that the government must know about all guns.
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                        • #13
                          Svashtar
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                          • Apr 2017
                          • 936

                          FFL Handgun Transfer Question

                          Originally posted by Librarian
                          Same issue with anything bought before 1991 and not subsequently transferred in CA 1991 or later.



                          Despite the apparent wishes of some politicians, it is not the law in CA that the government must know about all guns.
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                            mej16489
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                            Originally posted by Tyke8319
                            D.O.J. will require that any handgun on your CCW permit has to be a "registered" handgun. Locally, my S.O. requires it as well.
                            Originally posted by taperxz
                            Not a DOJ thing. Its only your Sheriff doing that.
                            Correct DOJ has no such requirement.

                            ...in fact, when DoJ records the submission from the issuing agency it will actually generate an AFS record for any firearms which don't already have one.

                            So, if AFS records are the means by which something is 'registered' adding an unregistered handgun to a license to carry actually registers it.

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                            • #15
                              Svashtar
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                              • Apr 2017
                              • 936

                              Originally posted by mej16489
                              Correct DOJ has no such requirement.

                              ...in fact, when DoJ records the submission from the issuing agency it will actually generate an AFS record for any firearms which don't already have one.

                              So, if AFS records are the means by which something is 'registered' adding an unregistered handgun to a license to carry actually registers it.
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