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  • 56huck
    Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 152

    Sales tax on ppt?

    My lgs says they now have to collect sales tax on all ppt. I ordered and paid for a new gun from Cabelas and they charged me sales tax - he said DOJ said he had to and pay sales tax on all his recent ppt's
    Does everyone now have to charge sales tax on ppt and guns purchased out of state?
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    56huck
    Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 152

    I should have searched first....
    I found the answer here

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    • #3
      M1NM
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2011
      • 7966

      No tax on PPT - dealer is not involved in sale only transfer.
      My FFL does not charge me tax when the seller includes a note that the sale is occasional and between private parties - some FFLs charge in all cases.

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      • #4
        dvs762
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2007
        • 1790

        refer to my thread on ppt tax..they are sending me a letter about it..

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          97F1504RAD
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          • Dec 2008
          • 6318

          Originally posted by 56huck
          My lgs says they now have to collect sales tax on all ppt. I ordered and paid for a new gun from Cabelas and they charged me sales tax - he said DOJ said he had to and pay sales tax on all his recent ppt's
          Does everyone now have to charge sales tax on ppt and guns purchased out of state?
          Since you ordered a gun from Cabelas this is NOT a PPT, thus it is subject to tax.

          A PPT is done in person by two people is not subject to tax.

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          • #6
            bbguns44
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2006
            • 1182

            A used gun from an out of state private seller is also not subject to sales tax. But is subject to the transfer fee & dros.

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            • #7
              edgerly779
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              CGN Contributor
              • Aug 2009
              • 19871

              ^^^ Wrong

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              • #8
                dvs762
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 1790

                ive had 3 different answers from BOE on private sale sales tax..one says yes. one says no and one says no idea..makes it very confusing..
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                • #9
                  edgerly779
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                  • Aug 2009
                  • 19871

                  Read boe refferal in post 2 and this is not ppt

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                  • #10
                    kemasa
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 10706

                    Originally posted by bbguns44
                    A used gun from an out of state private seller is also not subject to sales tax. But is subject to the transfer fee & dros.
                    Wrong. The CA BOE changed their opinion several years ago and since they answer to no one, there is not much that can be done except to vote in new representatives.

                    If the FFL finds the buyer or seller or gets involved in the price, a CA PPT is subject to sales tax.

                    An occasional firearm sale from a private party, not from a business, within CA or from out of state in the case of a C&R firearm when the buyer has a C&R FFL is not subject to sales tax as long as the FFL does not find the buyer/seller or get involved in the price.
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                    • #11
                      dvs762
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 1790

                      Im waiting on a letter from them right now about this..on the phone they say if its an occasional sale of not more than 2 guns a year then no sales tax..BUT may have to collect a USE tax..which is the same rate as a sales tax...yeah..muddy as hell...
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                      • #12
                        smak28
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                        • Jan 2013
                        • 4120

                        Originally posted by bbguns44
                        A used gun from an out of state private seller is also not subject to sales tax. But is subject to the transfer fee & dros.
                        This is incorrect. It is subject to tax, transfer fee, & DROS. The FFL is responsible for collecting tax on that transaction.
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                        • #13
                          Junkie
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                          • Aug 2007
                          • 4848

                          Originally posted by smak28
                          This is incorrect. It is subject to tax, transfer fee, & DROS. The FFL is responsible for collecting tax on that transaction.
                          He said private seller for a reason - at one time it certainly wasn't subject to tax, because occasional sellers don't have to collect tax (in general).

                          From an FFL tax would be collected.
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                          • #14
                            smak28
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                            Originally posted by Junkie
                            He said private seller for a reason - at one time it certainly wasn't subject to tax, because occasional sellers don't have to collect tax (in general).

                            From an FFL tax would be collected.
                            You are correct at one time it wasn't subject to tax, but we're not talking about back then.

                            However, when a "private seller" mails a pistol to CA FFL for a private buyer to purchase, the private buyer must pay the tax on the transaction to the private buyer's FFL.
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                            • #15
                              kemasa
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 10706

                              Originally posted by Junkie
                              He said private seller for a reason - at one time it certainly wasn't subject to tax, because occasional sellers don't have to collect tax (in general).
                              And in the past people could sell without going through a FFL, but that is not the case anymore, so what is your point?

                              From an FFL tax would be collected.
                              From only matters if the shipper is within CA, with an exception for C&R firearms where the buyer has a C&R FFL.
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