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  • #16
    ugimports
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Jun 2009
    • 6250

    Originally posted by dummykid
    I am not an FFL, but it seems to me this is a CA state level denial, not a federal level. FBI background check is just a background check to see if you are clear, but CA DOJ can deny the paperwork. Its pointless to contact FBI background check agents because they have nothing to do with CA DOJ. From the pic you post, the 916-227-7527 is CA DOJ contact number, so the customer shall contact CA DOJ not FBI. ( CA DOJ won't share info with federal agent in general).

    " CA gov is finding all possible ways to stop firearm sales.. "
    See: https://oag.ca.gov/firearms

    Click Denied on the bottom left and look at the instructions the CA DOJ gives people.

    If your DROS application is denied, you will receive a letter from the DOJ Bureau of Firearms within two weeks. The letter will explain the reason and instructions on how to get a copy of the record that resulted in the denial of your application. There will also be instructions on how to dispute and correct information in your record you believe is wrong. DOJ staff cannot discuss your record over the telephone. Therefore, it is recommended that you get a copy of your record and follow the instructions for disputing inaccuracies. You may also wish to retain an attorney for legal advice and who can best represent your interests on how to restore your rights to buy firearms.

    If your DROS application was denied based on a Federal Brady prohibition (e.g., out-of-state conviction, illegal/unlawful alien, military dishonorable discharge, out-of-state mental health record, etc.), you can appeal the denial of your application directly to the Federal Bureau of Investigation National Instant Criminal History Background Check System (NICS). When discussing your situation with NICS, you must include the NICS Transaction Number (NTN) associated with your firearm purchase as referenced in the denial letter sent to you by the DOJ Bureau of Firearms. You can appeal directly to NICS by downloading the NICS appeal brochure and following the instructions found at NICS Appeals page.
    Bold added by me.
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    • #17
      ugimports
      Vendor/Retailer
      • Jun 2009
      • 6250

      Some info I learned recently -- it appears that CA DOJ does not always adequately check the status of Visa holders. They sometimes will not follow-up on hunting license info and then mark the person as in the country illegally. I've had this now occur with 2 separate customers where they were told by DOJ the reason for denial was that they were in the country illegally. Both started appeals process with feds (still ongoing). One of them forgot about that status (year ago) and DROSd a firearm at another FFL and was cleared. He is now going to re-DROS his item with us. Another customer was denied with us for the above reason. He thought it was because he was near expiring of his visa as he's about to get his greencard in 90 days. So he decided just to try one more time and if it didn't go through he'd just wait for his greencard.. well it went through..

      So, the moral of my story is -- if you have Visa holders that initially get denied due to DOJ saying they are in the country illegally, try again. Could be that particular agent reviewing didn't bother to check what they needed to and the next agent will.

      Sometimes the agents will try calling you once, not leave a message, and then tell the customer you were not available to validate hunting license so they assumed it was not legit.

      And as I mentioned before the DOJ agents/DES reviewers have told me they cannot see the comments you type in online. However, I think they have told someone else that they could see it. I would assume they cannot.
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