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  • ronlglock
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • May 2011
    • 2670

    SIG P320 with various x-change kits

    So let's say that I have more than one P320, where the fire control group (FCG) is the firearm, along with a handful of x-change and grip kits.

    If I want to sell a P320, do I have to sell it in the configuration in which I bought it, or can I sell it in any configuration?

    To be more specific, the incoming PPT may have been a sub 9mm, but I want to keep that caliber and grip and sell it as a .40 full size because I don't want that x-change kit.

    Is there any kind of matching going on at DOJ that will raise a flag that I sold a firearm that I never purchased, or that S/N xxxx is now a different caliber and barrel length?
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  • #2
    OCArmory
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 1321

    It should be removed from your AFIS report by serial number or at least show transferred. That being said I have found errors on my AFIS report of guns I had sold.

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    • #3
      ronlglock
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • May 2011
      • 2670

      Originally posted by OCArmory
      It should be removed from your AFIS report by serial number or at least show transferred. That being said I have found errors on my AFIS report of guns I had sold.
      Sorry! I forgot to mention that I am not an FFL but a private collector. I don't want to cause trouble for me, the buyer, or my transfer FFL.
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      NRA/USCCA/DOJ instructor, NRA CRSO, Journalist

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      • #4
        OCArmory
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 1321

        AFS is the automated firearms system. It is for your personal firearms that are on record as being transferred to you.

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        • #5
          kemasa
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jun 2005
          • 10706

          As far as I know, there is no issue with selling it in any configuration. I suspect it is the same as with some of the SSEs in which it was originally transferred as a different caliber.
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          • #6
            Burbur
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 1258

            AFS is bad at "deregistering".

            I have an ongoing case where DOJ-APPS wants me to make a DROS correction to a PPT, to what the previous FFL entered, as opposed to what is actually on the gun. Why? Because the original sale wasn't superseded by the PPT, and the original owner is still showing as a prohibited person, with a gun...

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            • #7
              kemasa
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jun 2005
              • 10706

              Originally posted by Burbur
              AFS is bad at "deregistering".

              I have an ongoing case where DOJ-APPS wants me to make a DROS correction to a PPT, to what the previous FFL entered, as opposed to what is actually on the gun. Why? Because the original sale wasn't superseded by the PPT, and the original owner is still showing as a prohibited person, with a gun...
              Sounds like that is their problem, not yours. You might remind them that you sign the DROS under penalty of perjury and that if they are suggesting that you make a false statement, it could be a serious problem for them and that they should contact an attorney as they are pushing you to commit a criminal act.

              The person could send in a no longer in possession. Also, if a prohibited person sold a firearm out of state, the CA records would not change at all.
              Kemasa.
              False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

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              • #8
                Burbur
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 1258

                Pretty much what I told them.

                But to the original point; sending in a Automated Firearms System (AFS)
                Request for Firearm Records would probably reveal guns still registered to a person that they PPT'd away. Filing the NOTICE OF NO LONGER IN POSSESSION is probably required more often that we'd like to hope.

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                • #9
                  kemasa
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 10706

                  From what I have heard, they don't delete the records.
                  Kemasa.
                  False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                  Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

                  Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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