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  • JIGSAW249
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2017
    • 13

    CA DOJ Roster Questions

    I've got some questions regarding the CA DOJ roster and what happens when a gun meets its expiration date. I've looked for the answer/s, but haven't found them. If this is the wrong forum for these questions, forgive me, but I took a shot thinking that if FFLs trolled these pages, one of them would have good answers for me. If my thread needs to be moved to the proper forum, so be it.

    Here goes:

    I was looking at the CA DOJ roster the other day (filtered Glocks & Springfields specifically) and noticed that most (or all) of those pistols meet their expiration date on January 1, 2018. That got me thinking:

    1) Is there a renewal process those makers have to go through to extend or establish a new expiration date?

    2) Does CA automatically or by default extend that date if manufacturers pay a fee?

    OR

    3) Does that date mean those guns come off the roster and that's that? Period, end of story. Therefore, meaning in practice, one cannot buy those guns in CA any longer.

    Here's why it matters to me. I have 2 younger daughters that I need to buy for. If the Glock 26 & 27 come off roster on January 1, 2018, I need to buy 2 guns this year. If NOT, and there is a renewal of sorts on that expiration date, I have more time. Factor in the "1 gun every 30 days" law and I need to plan it properly.

    I hope I've expressed my questions well enough. I appreciate the feedback on this! Many thanks in advance!
  • #2
    kemasa
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jun 2005
    • 10706

    They stay on the list as long as the extortion is paid.
    Kemasa.
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    • #3
      LeadFarmer74
      Veteran Member
      • May 2015
      • 3105

      Manufacturers renew their guns on the list every year. It's a fee and most get renewed but as you can see some drop off. Once they drop off, they are off forever (or until micostamping get shut down). Another reason they drop off is because manufacturing changes therefore it's not the same gun. Example: Glock 3 will eventually drop off when they stop producing or change the way it's built.
      NRA Lifer
      Originally posted by Click Boom
      I know your ban hammer is cold hammer forged and chrome lined, im not messin with it!

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      • #4
        JIGSAW249
        Junior Member
        • Apr 2017
        • 13

        Thank you both.

        I would assume then that the roster itself is all there is to go by to find out if a manufacturer has kissed the ring and paid the extortion, right?

        And re microstamping, the Gen 3 shelf-life, and changes in manufacturing or design, I pretty much knew all of that. Or at least assumed I knew it (pieced it together) based on the shopping I did last year.

        So as it applies to me, I either buy 2 this year or take the gamble that 1) Glock pays the extortion; and 2) Glock continues to produce without any alterations the Gen 3s.

        That's probably how it all boils down to me, yes?

        Hey, listen, I appreciate your comments! I really do! Thanks for the clarification!

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        • #5
          Librarian
          Admin and Poltergeist
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2005
          • 44664

          Last year, at SHOT, the NorCal Glock rep said there were no plans to discontinue CA-approved Glocks. Can't go on forever, I guess, but I've seen nothing to suggest they've changed the plan.

          See also the wiki -- http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...e_Handgun_List
          Last edited by Librarian; 05-17-2017, 1:18 PM.
          ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

          Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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          • #6
            LeadFarmer74
            Veteran Member
            • May 2015
            • 3105

            Originally posted by JIGSAW249
            So as it applies to me, I either buy 2 this year or take the gamble that 1) Glock pays the extortion; and 2) Glock continues to produce without any alterations the Gen 3s.

            That's probably how it all boils down to me, yes?
            Yup you got it. Glocks will probably be the last to drop off the roster. Certain models might go early but your 17,19 etc popular ones will stay on. If your specifically looking at glocks I would say you are safe.
            NRA Lifer
            Originally posted by Click Boom
            I know your ban hammer is cold hammer forged and chrome lined, im not messin with it!

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            • #7
              cire raeb
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 1049

              Originally posted by Librarian
              Last year, at SHOT, the NorCal Glock rep said there were no plans to discontinue CA-approved Glocks. Can't go on forever, I guess, but I've seen nothing to suggest they've changed the plan.

              See also the wiki -- http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...e_Handgun_List


              In that case, how about selling slides with MOS cut outs as accessories?


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              • #8
                ugimports
                Vendor/Retailer
                • Jun 2009
                • 6250

                Originally posted by cire raeb
                In that case, how about selling slides with MOS cut outs as accessories?


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                Like these?
                Lone Wolf Arms is the largest manufacturer of aftermarket parts for Glocks. We also have M&P Shield, Beretta/Taurus, and Browning Hi-Power parts.
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                • #9
                  cire raeb
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 1049

                  Originally posted by ugimports


                  Prefer OEM parts.


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                  • #10
                    ugimports
                    Vendor/Retailer
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 6250

                    Originally posted by cire raeb
                    Prefer OEM parts.


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                    UG Imports - Fremont, CA FFL - Transfers, New Gun Sales
                    Closure Schedule: http://ugimports.com/closed
                    web​ / email / vendor forum

                    I AM THE MAJORITY!!!

                    Amazon Links Posted May be Paid Links

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