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  • Germz
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Apr 2013
    • 4691

    DROS Fee question

    Long story short, an FFL is advertising the dros fee as $28.50. Did the fee go up? Is a dealer legally allowed to charge more than the $19+$5+$1 standard fee?
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    rbetts
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    • Jan 2009
    • 1150

    No fee increase. Still 25.00 Ask them what the extra 3.50 is for. . . . .
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    • #3
      Germz
      Vendor/Retailer
      • Apr 2013
      • 4691

      Is it legal to charge more? Like how ffls can charge an extra no more than $10 On PPTs?

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      Last edited by Germz; 09-19-2016, 10:16 PM.
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      • #4
        Cokebottle
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        • Oct 2009
        • 32373

        Originally posted by Germz
        Is it legal to charge more? Like how ffls can charge an extra no more than $10 On PPTs?
        They can add a "dealer fee" of whatever they can bilk out of you, but it must be itemized as such on the paperwork.

        DROS is $19 + $5 + $1 and not one penny more.
        - Rich

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        • #5
          rbetts
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          • Jan 2009
          • 1150

          Don't confuse a transfer fee with a DROS fee. A transfer fee is the cost of our service. The DROS fee goes to the state only. On a PPT we can only charge 10.00 per gun for the transfer. The state DROS fee is still only 25.00


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          • #6
            SkyHawk
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            • Sep 2012
            • 23490

            Originally posted by Cokebottle
            They can add a "dealer fee" of whatever they can bilk out of you, but it must be itemized as such on the paperwork.

            DROS is $19 + $5 + $1 and not one penny more.
            They cannot add a dealer fee beyond $10 per firearm for PPT. They can collect fees for FSC, but they can't make up their own fees in a PPT.

            PC28055



            28055. (a) For a sale, loan, or transfer conducted pursuant to this
            chapter, the purchaser or transferee or person being loaned the
            firearm may be required by the dealer to pay a fee not to exceed ten
            dollars ($10) per firearm.

            (b) No other fee may be charged by the dealer for a sale, loan, or
            transfer of a firearm conducted pursuant to this chapter
            , except for
            the applicable fees that may be charged pursuant to Sections 23690
            and 28300 and Article 3 (commencing with Section 28200) of Chapter 6
            and forwarded to the Department of Justice, and the fees set forth in
            Section 31650.
            (c) The dealer may not charge any additional fees.
            (d) Nothing in these provisions shall prevent a dealer from
            charging a smaller fee.

            28070. A violation of this chapter by a dealer is a misdemeanor.
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            • #7
              rbetts
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              • Jan 2009
              • 1150

              And remember a PPT is ONLY a face to face in person transfer between the two private parties at the dealers place of business. When you buy from an out of state individual it's a regular transfer and a dealer can then charge whatever he wants for his fee.


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              • #8
                Germz
                Vendor/Retailer
                • Apr 2013
                • 4691

                Nah as it is advertised this dealer is charging:

                1. $35 for a PPT

                2. $75 for out of state transfer plus $28.50 DROS

                3. $28.50 DROS for any dealer sale.

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                  Cokebottle
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                  • Oct 2009
                  • 32373

                  Originally posted by SkyHawk
                  They cannot add a dealer fee beyond $10 per firearm for PPT. They can collect fees for FSC, but they can't make up their own fees in a PPT.

                  PC28055

                  http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/di...le=28050-28070
                  OP didn't say anything about PPT, I assumed he was running into something like the Turner's Dealer Fee... $5 on a new gun I think?

                  If he's found an FFL that will do PPT for $28.50 OTD... SWEET!
                  - Rich

                  Originally posted by dantodd
                  A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                  • #10
                    Cokebottle
                    Señor Member
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                    • Oct 2009
                    • 32373

                    Originally posted by Germz
                    Nah as it is advertised this dealer is charging:

                    1. $35 for a PPT

                    2. $75 for out of state transfer plus $28.50 DROS

                    3. $28.50 DROS for any dealer sale.

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                    Ya... they're correct on the PPT fee, but DROS is $25, unless they break it out as a separate $3.50 on the receipt.
                    - Rich

                    Originally posted by dantodd
                    A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                    • #11
                      acespawnshop
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                      • Jun 2012
                      • 2852

                      OUT THE FFL!!!! JK. Sorry still reeling from the thread about me in the centerfire forum. As said it's probably misguided intentions. Educate them and show them the above mentioned PC about this. Also, just a thought. Maybe the 3.50 is for a lock? Not sure. Just ask and help educate. As said in the other thread after a lot of nonsense we are all one community and on the same side.
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                      Or call 626-968-5900

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                      • #12
                        kemasa
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 10706

                        It is illegal to misrepresent the DROS fee, btw.
                        Kemasa.
                        False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

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                        • #13
                          foxtrotuniformlima
                          Veteran Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 3453

                          Weird - they have the PPT fee correct at $35. Perhaps someone should enlighten them?
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                          • #14
                            edgerly779
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                            CGN Contributor
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 19871

                            Duh he is only charging $28.50 instead of $35 he could have charged . The dealer fee is for buying his firearms not dros.

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                            • #15
                              kemasa
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 10706

                              Originally posted by edgerly779
                              Duh he is only charging $28.50 instead of $35 he could have charged . The dealer fee is for buying his firearms not dros.
                              Huh? For a dealer sale, they could charge anything, but they can not misrepresent the DROS fee.
                              Kemasa.
                              False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

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