Blue Label Eligible

[The Count]

FFLs,

Looking into purchasing a Glock 19 and 43 after using my buddies in WA during an extended trip, including a visit to a private range.

Everything I've read and heard says I'm eligible for Blue Label pricing (Military) however when I reach out to dealers, they state LEO only.

Three questions: Is Blue Label pricing in CA is for LEO only?

Is the sale of the Glock 43 restricted in CA?

Doing a transfer or sale out of state, would I have any issues bringing back?

Time and patience appreciated.

[XxWoodsHunterxX]

If your a CA resident only Leo is allowed off roster firearms.

[SkyHawk]

FFLs,
Is Blue Label pricing in CA is for LEO only?

No - just read this from the horse's mouth:

https://us.glock.com/bluelabel

The Blue Label Program is available to the below with approved purchaser ID:

Sworn Law Enforcement officers, including Federal, State, County & City also includes retired L.E. officers with "retired" credentials (LE Department Picture ID front & back)

EMT's, Fire Fighters, Volunteer Fire Fighters, and Paramedics (with Picture ID from department front & back) Certifications alone are not authorized and do not qualify

Military personnel including Reservists and National Guard with I.D also includes retired Military with "retired" credentials (Military picture ID front & back) DD214/discharge papers do not qualify - If you cannot submit your ID please use our dealer locator to find a dealer in your area

Corrections Officers, including Parole and Probation Officers (LE Department Picture ID front & back)

State Licensed Security Companies (Loomis, RAM, etc.) Also includes State Licensed Armed Security Officers Employed by State Licensed Security Companies (with Employment Picture ID from company front & back) Certifications alone are not authorized and do not qualify

Court Judges, District Attorneys and Deputy District Attorneys

LE Academy Cadets with enrollment documentation from the Academy

GSSF Coupon Recipients should contact GSSF for more information

ACTIVE or RETIRED Military is eligible. DISCHARGED Military is not. If you are ACTIVE or RETIRED, find a better Blue Label dealer. Also note that not all Glock dealers are Blue Label dealers. If we knew where you were located, maybe we could give some FFL suggestions.

Is the sale of the Glock 43 restricted in CA?

Doing a transfer or sale out of state, would I have any issues bringing back?
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You cannot buy a handgun in a state you are not a resident of unless you are a FFL - that is federal law.

If you are a dual resident of CA and WA or some other state, you cannot import any firearm you acquire out of state into CA unless it is SHIPPED to a FFL here for DROS/transfer to you yet again (PC27585)

If you are a CA resident, you cannot import off roster handguns for transfer through a CA FFL unless they are roster exempt. You cannot buy a G43 in CA unless you are LEO. You cannot buy one out of state and transfer it to yourself here.


If you are *NOT* and CANNOT be considered a CA resident right now, you can buy a G43 in your current state of residence and bring it here with you when you move to CA to establish residency.

[The Count]

Skyhawk, thanks for the info and reply.

I'm a CA resident. I do enough business in WA that I could establish residence there and relinquish my CA residence...though that seems to be the last option I would exercise.

I have family in law enforcement. Reading enough of the threads in here, it seems a intrafamiliar transfer would be likely.

End state is to own those products, legally. The path to do so is what I'm trying to verify.

[ke6guj]

Skyhawk, thanks for the info and reply.

I'm a CA resident. I do enough business in WA that I could establish residence there and relinquish my CA residence...though that seems to be the last option I would exercise.

I have family in law enforcement. Reading enough of the threads in here, it seems a intrafamiliar transfer would be likely.

End state is to own those products, legally. The path to do so is what I'm trying to verify.

for intrafamily transfers, "family" only extends to parents, grandparents, children, grandchildren. straight up/down the family tree. no sideways, no diagonals. no siblings, uncles, cousins, nephews, etc.

[SkyHawk]

Skyhawk, thanks for the info and reply.

I'm a CA resident. I do enough business in WA that I could establish residence there and relinquish my CA residence...though that seems to be the last option I would exercise.

I have family in law enforcement. Reading enough of the threads in here, it seems a intrafamiliar transfer would be likely.

End state is to own those products, legally. The path to do so is what I'm trying to verify.

I would not ever ask my CA Law Enforcement family (which I also have) to obtain an off roster handgun for me. LEOs have gone to jail for that here - recently. Now if they have something in the safe a few years not being used that they want to get rid of, that is different.

Seriously, unless you have DIRECT FAMILY (as noted in the post above this one) who lives out of state to gift you one of these G43s using a CA FFL to transfer it to you using the intrafamily interstate roster exemption, I would just suck it up and buy one in the marketplace here. Yes you will pay a $300 - $400 premium, but that is much cheaper than bail money and attorney fees.

[The Count]

So if I got this correct:

-Even if the LE family want to gift me a gun of my choice, they can potentially be held criminally liable

-I can purchase from someone else (here, gunbroker, etc) through an FFL for either the gen 4 g19 or g43

Would I have to show proof of firearms safety or is military exempt/provide proof of something else?

[AregularGuy]

Military personnel including Reservists and National Guard with I.D also includes retired Military with "retired" credentials (Military picture ID front & back) DD214/discharge papers do not qualify - If you cannot submit your ID please use our dealer locator to find a dealer in your area

This is the part that gets me. It's illegal to copy military ID for other than proof of health insurance purposes.

[Quiet]

So if I got this correct:

(1)-Even if the LE family want to gift me a gun of my choice, they can potentially be held criminally liable

(2)-I can purchase from someone else (here, gunbroker, etc) through an FFL for either the gen 4 g19 or g43

(3)Would I have to show proof of firearms safety or is military exempt/provide proof of something else?

(1) Per Federal laws/regulations and SCOTUS ruling... In order to qualify as a gift, they will need to utilize their own money to acquire the firearm and you can not reimburse them (pay them money) for the firearm.

If they are a CA LEO and you ask them to acquire an off-Roster handgun for you, then they can be prosecuted or have their employment terminated for doing so.

(2) A PPT of a handgun is exempt from needing to be listed on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale.

A PPT is a face-to-face transfer between CA residents facilitated by a CA FFL dealer.
^If one of the parties involved is a non-resident of CA, then it is not a PPT.
^If the firearm is shipped, then it is not a PPT.

(3) Active/reserve duty and honorably retired Military is exempt from the FSC. [PC 31700(a)(10)]
Former military that is not honorably retired is not exempt.
(honorable discharge is different from honorably retired)