Dangerous Weapons Permit

[ugimports]

Fellow Dealers,

Now that it's quite likely that a vast majority of your customers will be AW owners (vs just LEO) do you think it is more likely CA DOJ will have to renew or issue these licenses?

I have never applied because my LEO customer base is small. However, I would say 90% of my customers have purchased rifles that they will likely register as AWs vs going featureless, selling, etc...

The CA DOJ itself knows they are asking for a lot of firearms to be registered as AWs so can they really deny the maintenance of those firearms as insufficient good cause?

Any feedback appreciated as I may apply for a permit if it makes sense.

Thanks,

[Quiet]

Unknown if the CCRs will change due to CA DOJ needing to create new regulations/procedures for the new assault weapons laws going into effect on 01-01-2017.

But, currently, repair and maintenance is an acceptable good cause. [11 CCR 4128(c)(5)]


11 CCR 4128
General.
(a) Except as provided in sections 30900 through 30945, 31050, 31055, and 31100 of the Penal Code, no person shall possess, transport, or sell any dangerous weapon in this state unless he/she has been granted a license and/or permit pursuant to these regulations.
(b) No license or permit shall be issued to any applicant who fails to establish good cause for such license or permit and that such license or permit would not endanger the public safety.
(c) To establish good cause, an applicant must provide the DOJ with clear and convincing evidence that there is a bona fide market or public necessity for the issuance of a dangerous weapons license or permit and that the applicant can satisfy that need without endangering public safety. Except as provided by Penal Code section 33300, good causes recognized by the DOJ to establish a bona fide necessity for issuance of dangerous weapons licenses or permits include the following:
(5) Repair and maintenance of dangerous weapons lawfully possessed by others.
(d) No license or permit shall be issued to any applicant who fails to comply with local zoning restrictions or local fire-protective services regulations or ordinances.
(e) The DOJ shall provide a notice of each license or permit issued to the Chief of Police or Sheriff having jurisdiction over the licensee or permittee's location. Copies of outstanding licenses and permits shall be provided to the Chief or Sheriff of jurisdiction upon request.

11 CCR 4136
Repair and Maintenance.
(a) Documentation required to determine bona fide necessity for repair of dangerous weapons includes the following:
(1) The applicant must provide evidence of expertise in the specific weaponry (i.e., educational certificates/diplomas, employment history, experience).
(2) Letters of interest must be provided from individuals/agencies indicating a need for applicant to repair or maintain their weaponry.

[ugimports]

Hmm..the repair and maintenance section assumes you're only doing it for LEO. I guess this is one area not a lot of thought was put into.

[CAL.BAR]

Did they issue a ton of new permits in 1989? And again in 2000? I seriously doubt it.

[ugimports]

I don't know anyone that applied using that reason for good cause and was denied. The permit costs money so a lot of people may not have applied. I have heard recently that folks that have had them were recently denied their renewals.

[Baboosh]

We applied again and can report back.

[fuddle]

adding myself to this thread for updates

[dvs762]

my old boss was denied..and he owns a armored transport company that handles millions of dollars daily and ATM money..they said.."you dont need it"..hes appealed but thinks it will be denied again..

[XxWoodsHunterxX]

I plan on getting another letter from an agency I work with stating to sell them firearms. And using that as my good cause since their swat uses auto rifles.