Question: Possession/registration of "abandon" rifle

[Kyle1886]

I was speaking to a neighbor about the new legislstion yesterday and he ask me about an AR platform rifle that he has that was purchased by his son sometime back. The son has since moved out of CA to the East Coast with his family and told the Dad to do whatever he wishes with the rifle. From my assessment of our conversation, the neighbor doubts if he sees his son anytime in the near future.

He is concerned about the new legislation and wants to know if he can just register the rifle that for the past few years has been in his possession and conform with the new AW laws when it's time.

I mentioned the OPLAW to him but in light of the new laws, I thought I would check in here before I passed on bogus info.

Thank you

Kyle

ETA: The Dad thinks the rifle was purchased sometime around 08/09 JD machine lower with bullet button. There is one blocked 10/20 mag. He has no paper work, just the arm and the mag.

[Fjold]

It depends on what year the gun was originally purchased by the son and it's current configuration. If it is a listed lower purchased before the last AW ban then he's got a very dangerous paperweight.

[Kyle1886]

Fjold, I have no idea when the arm was purchased, but considering the Dad's age I suspect that the son purchased it since 2000. I'll confirm later if it's Bullet Buttoned or not, but I suspect so.

Thanks
Kyle

ETA: The Dad thinks the rifle was purchased sometime around 08/09 JD machine lower with bullet button. There is one blocked 10/20 mag. He has no paper work, just the arm and the mag.

Thanks
Kyle

[kemasa]

As long as it is CA legal, he could fill out the Intrafamilial transfer form, that way it does not matter when the firearm was originally transferred.

Based on the year, there is most likely no CA record of the firearm being in the son's name. The firearm could still be traced and if the son originally purchased it, it would show that it was transferred to him.

[Kyle1886]

Thanks Kemasa; so I tell him to fill out the Interfamilial transfer form, pay the fee and then when it time to "register as an AW" if he chooses to he can at the proper time.

Correct?

Respectfully
Kyle

[kemasa]

Correct, assuming that today it is not considered a so-called a-salt weapon.

[Fjold]

If the son gifted it to the father before 2014 it would not have needed the intrafamilial transfer form as direct family gifts of long guns were exempt from the requirement then.

[Kyle1886]

Fjold, yes he came into possession prior to 2014, it was either 08 or 09. If that's the case then all he need to do is "register it as an AW", if he chooses, or what ever his intentions at the proper time.

Respectfully
Kyle

[kemasa]

The question is whether you want to follow the law or what you can try to get away with. Remember this is a public web site and do you want your post used as an example that firearm people are willing to violate the law if they think that they can get away with it.

[Kyle1886]

The question is whether you want to follow the law or what you can try to get away with. Remember this is a public web site and do you want your post used as an example that firearm people are willing to violate the law if they think that they can get away with it.

Kemasa, I want to give the guy the correct info. I'm sure he wants to follow the rules otherwise he would not have ask me. I just did not know, hence my question here.

I'll tell him to do the transfer form and pay the fee.

Thanks
Kyle