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  • oso grande
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 869

    1 per month.

    I know i know...this has been answered a million times, buy I don't know the answer.
    Can I buy 2 guns from out of state at the same time.
    What kinds of transaction does the i gun a month apply to?
    Thanks for your patience.

    OG
  • #2
    acespawnshop
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jun 2012
    • 2852

    1 IN 30 applies to new handgun purchases.
    Interstate Transfers $100 (DROS included with the price)
    Email acesjewelryandloan@hotmail.com if you need us to do a transfer!
    Or call 626-968-5900

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    • #3
      oso grande
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 869

      Originally posted by acespawnshop
      1 IN 30 applies to new handgun purchases.
      Can you define "new"?
      Is new a gun that has never been fired?
      Or is new a gun bought from a gun shop?
      How can DOJ know if the gun's new?
      Last edited by oso grande; 02-24-2016, 1:55 PM.

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      • #4
        pluke the 2
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 1926

        Originally posted by oso grande
        Can you define "new"?
        Is new a gun that has never been fired?
        Or is new a gun bought from a gun shop?
        See Baboosh's reply below
        Last edited by pluke the 2; 02-24-2016, 2:05 PM.

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        • #5
          Baboosh
          Calguns Addict
          • Jun 2008
          • 6769

          New does not matter. The gun could be beat to hell and accidentally shot with a shotgun at a beer infested range trip with cousin wifes but still considered a New Dealer Sale.

          CA defines it a Dealer Sale if it is not PPT.

          It cannot be a PPT if the selling party is not a CA resident
          It cannot be a PPT if the selling party AND buying party visit same FFL. Not at the same time but same FFL.

          If it is a C&R and you hold your 03 and COE you can buy as many C&R pistols at one time.
          Just a normal guy

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          • #6
            oso grande
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2008
            • 869

            Thanks guys. I really appreciate your help.

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            • #7
              dachan
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 1973

              You can buy any number of guns from out of state at the same time. But you can only DROS one handgun every 30 days. So if you can work it out with your FFL to hold your handgun purchases and brave them possibly falling of the roster or your FFL getting shut down or going out of business, go for it.

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              • #8
                Big Data
                Member
                CGN Contributor
                • Aug 2015
                • 243

                Originally posted by Baboosh
                It cannot be a PPT if the selling party AND buying party visit same FFL. Not at the same time but same FFL.
                Is that a typo or am I not understanding?
                =NRA Life Member=

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                • #9
                  acespawnshop
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 2852

                  When I said NEW I meant, New Dealer Sale. Regardless if the firearm was previously owned or not is irrelevant.
                  Interstate Transfers $100 (DROS included with the price)
                  Email acesjewelryandloan@hotmail.com if you need us to do a transfer!
                  Or call 626-968-5900

                  Follow us on Facebook @acesjewelryandloan Need Cash Fast? Get a loan on your firearms here!

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                  • #10
                    ke6guj
                    Moderator
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 23725

                    Originally posted by Big Data
                    Is that a typo or am I not understanding?
                    definitely a typo or missing some words in that one.



                    Originally posted by acespawnshop
                    When I said NEW I meant, New Dealer Sale. Regardless if the firearm was previously owned or not is irrelevant.
                    what is a "New Dealer Sale"? is it different than a "Used Dealer Sale"? I'm not aware of any PC definitions regarding those terms.

                    that is why I just say the 1-in-30 applies to all transfers, with certain exemptions such as PPT/consignment.

                    Otherwise, then you get to define "new dealer sale" and say that used guns are considered "new" for purposes of the 1-in-30 which isn't true. I can't buy and DROS multiple LEO-trade in Glock 17's from a dealer all at once, not because they are "new dealer sale" but because they are not exempt from the 1-in-30.
                    Jack



                    Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                    No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                    • #11
                      ElVasco
                      Junior Member
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 12

                      This is probably not what you're looking for specifically, but I just did an intra-familiar out of state transfer and it definitely counted as my 1 in 30...

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                      • #12
                        acespawnshop
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 2852

                        I guess this is what happens when you try and calguns while trying to do other things. I quickly answered the OP and didn't phrase it well. Then responded again and chose poorly again. New dealer sale is not a legal term. I was referencing any sale that is not a PPT, pawn redemption, or other such sale that is 1 in 30 exempt. Was thinking "new to you and your buying it from a dealer"

                        Lets give it a third shot. You may only make application to purchase 1 handgun every 30 days from a dealer. PPTs are being bought from another person, pawn redemptions fall under firearm being returned to owner. If you're buying online and shipping to a FFL you would fall under the 1 in 30 rule.
                        Interstate Transfers $100 (DROS included with the price)
                        Email acesjewelryandloan@hotmail.com if you need us to do a transfer!
                        Or call 626-968-5900

                        Follow us on Facebook @acesjewelryandloan Need Cash Fast? Get a loan on your firearms here!

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                        • #13
                          Cndnmax
                          Member
                          • Jan 2016
                          • 136

                          Does the 30 days start from the date the dros was submitted or from when the background was cleared/firearm picked up?

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                          • #14
                            ke6guj
                            Moderator
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 23725

                            Originally posted by Cndnmax
                            Does the 30 days start from the date the dros was submitted or from when the background was cleared/firearm picked up?
                            30-days starts the moment the DROS is submitted. that 30-days is also the length of time you have to pick up your gun. your DROS paperwork will show when the DROS was started and when you must pick up by. 1 minute after that 30-day pickup window closes you can start the next handgun DROS.
                            Jack



                            Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                            No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                            • #15
                              kemasa
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 10706

                              Originally posted by Baboosh
                              It cannot be a PPT if the selling party AND buying party visit same FFL. Not at the same time but same FFL.
                              Not sure if that is a typo or what, but a CA PPT, which is exempt from the 1 in 30, is where both the buyer and seller go to the same FFL. It is NOT required to be at the same time since the DROS worksheet can be used, as often is the case with a consignment.
                              Kemasa.
                              False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                              Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

                              Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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