1 per month.

[oso grande]

I know i know...this has been answered a million times, buy I don't know the answer.
Can I buy 2 guns from out of state at the same time.
What kinds of transaction does the i gun a month apply to?
Thanks for your patience.

OG

[acespawnshop]

1 IN 30 applies to new handgun purchases.

[oso grande]

1 IN 30 applies to new handgun purchases.

Can you define "new"?
Is new a gun that has never been fired?
Or is new a gun bought from a gun shop?
How can DOJ know if the gun's new?

[pluke the 2]

Can you define "new"?
Is new a gun that has never been fired?
Or is new a gun bought from a gun shop?

See Baboosh's reply below

[Baboosh]

New does not matter. The gun could be beat to hell and accidentally shot with a shotgun at a beer infested range trip with cousin wifes but still considered a New Dealer Sale.

CA defines it a Dealer Sale if it is not PPT.

It cannot be a PPT if the selling party is not a CA resident
It cannot be a PPT if the selling party AND buying party visit same FFL. Not at the same time but same FFL.

If it is a C&R and you hold your 03 and COE you can buy as many C&R pistols at one time.

[oso grande]

Thanks guys. I really appreciate your help.

[dachan]

You can buy any number of guns from out of state at the same time. But you can only DROS one handgun every 30 days. So if you can work it out with your FFL to hold your handgun purchases and brave them possibly falling of the roster or your FFL getting shut down or going out of business, go for it.

[Big Data]

It cannot be a PPT if the selling party AND buying party visit same FFL. Not at the same time but same FFL.

Is that a typo or am I not understanding?

[acespawnshop]

When I said NEW I meant, New Dealer Sale. Regardless if the firearm was previously owned or not is irrelevant.

[ke6guj]

Is that a typo or am I not understanding?

definitely a typo or missing some words in that one.

When I said NEW I meant, New Dealer Sale. Regardless if the firearm was previously owned or not is irrelevant.

what is a "New Dealer Sale"? is it different than a "Used Dealer Sale"? I'm not aware of any PC definitions regarding those terms.

that is why I just say the 1-in-30 applies to all transfers, with certain exemptions such as PPT/consignment.

Otherwise, then you get to define "new dealer sale" and say that used guns are considered "new" for purposes of the 1-in-30 which isn't true. I can't buy and DROS multiple LEO-trade in Glock 17's from a dealer all at once, not because they are "new dealer sale" but because they are not exempt from the 1-in-30.

[ElVasco]

This is probably not what you're looking for specifically, but I just did an intra-familiar out of state transfer and it definitely counted as my 1 in 30...

[acespawnshop]

I guess this is what happens when you try and calguns while trying to do other things. I quickly answered the OP and didn't phrase it well. Then responded again and chose poorly again. New dealer sale is not a legal term. I was referencing any sale that is not a PPT, pawn redemption, or other such sale that is 1 in 30 exempt. Was thinking "new to you and your buying it from a dealer"

Lets give it a third shot. You may only make application to purchase 1 handgun every 30 days from a dealer. PPTs are being bought from another person, pawn redemptions fall under firearm being returned to owner. If you're buying online and shipping to a FFL you would fall under the 1 in 30 rule.

[Cndnmax]

Does the 30 days start from the date the dros was submitted or from when the background was cleared/firearm picked up?

[ke6guj]

Does the 30 days start from the date the dros was submitted or from when the background was cleared/firearm picked up?

30-days starts the moment the DROS is submitted. that 30-days is also the length of time you have to pick up your gun. your DROS paperwork will show when the DROS was started and when you must pick up by. 1 minute after that 30-day pickup window closes you can start the next handgun DROS.

[kemasa]

It cannot be a PPT if the selling party AND buying party visit same FFL. Not at the same time but same FFL.

Not sure if that is a typo or what, but a CA PPT, which is exempt from the 1 in 30, is where both the buyer and seller go to the same FFL. It is NOT required to be at the same time since the DROS worksheet can be used, as often is the case with a consignment.