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  • 02Caltaco
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    • Apr 2012
    • 488

    Tranfer/Handling fee taxed?

    I'm having a hard time finding a definite answer to wether or not the ffl transfer/handling fee (non ppt) is taxable. My first thought would be that it's not a product so no sales tax on it. But then I find others saying that fee is included in the total taxable amount. I do know that the dros is not to be taxed.

    If my math is right the last ffl that transferred a lower reciever for me did not include his fee in the taxable total. I recently called another ffl for a price and he said something about being required to tax the registration. I didn't ask for an explanation.

    Anyway, since this is the ffl section I thought it could be easily cleared up.

    Thank you.
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    02Caltaco
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    • Apr 2012
    • 488

    Sorry, I should have looked at the stickies first. After reading through a couple pages of the sticky regarding ffl tax obligations it looks like the transfer fee is taxable. It also sounds like some chose not to tax the transfer fee, just the purchase price of the item. Basically they are paying that aditional tax, roughly $4, out of the transfer fee.

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    • #3
      kemasa
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      • Jun 2005
      • 10706

      If the firearm is subject to sales tax, then the FFL fee is subject to sales tax.

      The FFL might not be aware of the sales tax requirements, which they will learn if they are audited.
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        02Caltaco
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        • Apr 2012
        • 488

        He's been licensed for quite some time, it could have been a mistake on my transaction or its already figured into his transfer fee, although that's not how the receipt was written.

        The reason I was thinking the tax might be figured into his fee, at least in his head, is because I had another ffl quote me a flat fee that he said included dros, tax and transfer fee. At the time I thought he meant sales tax but that just wouldn't make sense, he would lose his *** on high priced firearms. He must have meant transfer tax.

        Anyway, I'm glad it's 100% clear now to me. If I get charged an aditional tax amount on the fee this time, then I'm only out an extra $4.

        Now I need to research the lock requirements, the firearm comes with one but it sounds like that doesn't necessarily mean that it satisfies doj requirements.

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        • #5
          ugimports
          Vendor/Retailer
          • Jun 2009
          • 6250

          Double check the lock make/model here: http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/fsdcertlist
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            02Caltaco
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            • Apr 2012
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            Originally posted by ugimports
            Double check the lock make/model here: http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/fsdcertlist
            Thanks, I haven't had my hands on it yet, when I go to the ffl to do the paper work I'll take a look. The doj only lists 1 for this firearm, masterlock 107. Hopefully that's what Springfield includes with this gun.

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            • #7
              ugimports
              Vendor/Retailer
              • Jun 2009
              • 6250

              It might be the Springfield ILS which is on the list too (in many of the 1911s). If no physical lock is there, but the firearm has that you are fine. Most of the XDs come with a compliant lock that I've handled.
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                02Caltaco
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                • Apr 2012
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                Originally posted by ugimports
                It might be the Springfield ILS which is on the list too (in many of the 1911s). If no physical lock is there, but the firearm has that you are fine. Most of the XDs come with a compliant lock that I've handled.
                Awesome, sounds good. It's an XD9, and I know it comes with a lock in the box. What threw me off was when I put the model # xd9101 on that site it only came up with the masterlock 107.

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                • #9
                  ugimports
                  Vendor/Retailer
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 6250

                  Usually it's easier to search on the lock make/model vs the gun.
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