CAPPS System

[fuddle]

I saw some previous posts, but still no real answers. So we're already filling out the JUS 123 on paper and giving it to local law enforcement. That's all they require where I am. The letter we got states that second hand dealer licensing oversight completely shifts to local law enforcement. They don't have such a program. So, here are some questions.

1) Since the we're already doing the DROS Acquisitions and JUS 123 (turned into local LE), do we need to also use the new online system? That's not local LE so i don't understand.

2) Since our local LE doesn't have a program, are we out of the secondhand business?

3) So we have to get our own scanners for signatures and thumbprint, but what software do we use to scan and store? Just make up our own? So we have to scan, name, and upload each signature and thumbprint?

4) (slightly related) During an audit our rep told us we don't need to do a DROS Worksheet anymore as that's been superseded by the Acquisition. But, when we PPT a consignment, without the DROS worksheet, there is no indication of the seller's place of birth or phone number on the DROS worksheet.

Any help here would be appreciated.

[russelltactical]

I called CAPPS and asked them this same question because I was really confused once it went live. They advised that we have to enroll in the CAPPS System but we do not use it to consign firearms. All we do is acquire them through the DES and hold them for 30 days before releasing them. My local PD told me everything is electronic now and they do not process paper JUS. Now I don't know for sure how they get the information but it sounds like the local PD is notified electronically when we take in firearms on consignment.

Oh and you don't need to buy all the fancy equipment either. I made that mistake and now it just sits in a drawer :/

[fuddle]

I appreciate the help. You say we don't use it for consignment, but what about purchasing a used gun? I did create a CAPSS login, but it would be great to not have to use it. Also, they didn't give us an implementation date either.

[acespawnshop]

https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/secondhand/capss/faq.pdf?

If you only deal in firearms you do not need to do this and just report as normally in the FDAS as usual.

[fuddle]

oh ok. That's awesome. Thanks

[REH]

I called CAPPS and asked them this same question because I was really confused once it went live. They advised that we have to enroll in the CAPPS System but we do not use it to consign firearms. All we do is acquire them through the DES and hold them for 30 days before releasing them. My local PD told me everything is electronic now and they do not process paper JUS. Now I don't know for sure how they get the information but it sounds like the local PD is notified electronically when we take in firearms on consignment.

Oh and you don't need to buy all the fancy equipment either. I made that mistake and now it just sits in a drawer :/

I hope I can get my sold on EBay before yours. Local deputy response, "Oh that is what they told us at the time, sorry about that".

[halifax]

https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/a...capss/faq.pdf?


If you only deal in firearms you do not need to do this and just report as normally in the FDAS as usual.

15. I only deal in FIREARMS and I have an active secondhand dealer license; am I required to report into CAPSS?
No you are not required to report FIREARMS into CAPSS as a dealer you STILL must report through FDAS/DROS however; you are REQUIRED to register as a secondhand dealer in CAPSS in order for your license to remain active.

I'm glad I held off buying the equipment.

[russelltactical]

https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/a...capss/faq.pdf?


If you only deal in firearms you do not need to do this and just report as normally in the FDAS as usual.

Now granted I should have seen that but what's frustrating is it took talking to a few people at DOJ before someone told me.

[acespawnshop]

The whole idea is flawed. They don't even know how it's going to be implemented yet and how they are going to deal with all the data collected. I have a whole list of gripes about this topic but I'll refrain from complaining on calguns and take my complaints to other pawn shops. This whole thing is dumb. Be glad if you're only a gun dealer that you don't have to deal with this nonsense.