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  • Tacit Blue
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 4134

    Is this a private party transfer?

    I'm buying a C&R gun from a calgunner. So in essence the transaction is from a private party. However, I called a gunshop and was told " It's just a regular transfer, not a PPT. Just from a private person. It's only a PPT when both parties are present". I would be having a gun shipped to a FFL.

    I know the PPT is set at 35.00 by law. A transfer is going to cost me 70.00.

    Whos right?


    I Found this penal code

    ""(a) A person shall complete any sale, loan, or transfer of a
    firearm through a person licensed pursuant to Sections 26700 to
    26915, inclusive, in accordance with this chapter in order to
    comply with Section 27545.
    (b) The seller or transferor or the person loaning the firearm
    shall deliver the firearm to the dealer who shall retain possession
    of that firearm.
    (c) The dealer shall then deliver the firearm to the purchaser or
    transferee or the person being loaned the firearm, if it is not
    prohibited, in accordance with Section 27540."
    Last edited by Tacit Blue; 11-14-2015, 9:43 AM.
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  • #2
    dyson
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 4342

    Ppt is no shipping

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    • #3
      ASD1
      1/2 BANNED
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Apr 2012
      • 1793

      Originally posted by dyson
      Ppt is no shipping
      this ^^^^
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      • #4
        teg33
        Veteran Member
        • May 2013
        • 3441

        Both party have to be present in PPT, no shipping

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        • #5
          Canucky
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2007
          • 4265

          Person to person both parties present. MHO.

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          • #6
            dyson
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 4342

            Originally posted by teg33
            Both party have to be present in PPT, no shipping
            I've never done it, but I believe consignment sales is a form of PPT.
            Last edited by dyson; 11-14-2015, 10:55 AM.

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            • #7
              Librarian
              Admin and Poltergeist
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2005
              • 44682

              See the sticky in this forum - http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=725126

              It appears that both parties need to be present, serially (seller, then buyer) or simultaneously, at the same FFL.
              ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

              Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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              • #8
                GOLDEN GUN
                Banned
                • Dec 2012
                • 2326

                Yea

                If the ffl is receiving it from someone else and conducting the transfer.. It is a dealer sale

                For PPT, you need both parties physically present and both parties DL needs to be scanned and both parties need to sign DROS.

                Since the FFL is receiving it, the only way they can do the transfer is as a dealer sale.

                $Dros fees law still applies but there is no laws on how much a FFL can charge for ha dealing and receiving the firearm from an outside source. Hence the $70

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