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  • drno4
    Member
    • Jun 2015
    • 351

    Can I buy an 11-round magazine gun without the magazines?

    I'm not an FFL myself, just a happy gun owner.

    Eyeing an on-roster Beretta 96 from an out-of-state FFL -- but it comes with two 11-round magazines.

    Could the FFL legally ship and sell it to me (could I legally buy it) if he were to omit the two magazines from the transaction?

    Thanks in advance, fellow CGs, for your always sage insight!
    Last edited by drno4; 10-21-2015, 10:16 PM.
    WTB S&W 3rd Gens: 4004 - 4026 - 4054 - 5905 & 5906 | but no matter what 3rd gen you have, feel free to PM me and let's talk!
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    ASD1
    1/2 BANNED
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Apr 2012
    • 1793

    Yes but you will need 10rd mags to do the safe handgun demo, So have your FFL order you some 10s
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      drno4
      Member
      • Jun 2015
      • 351

      Originally posted by 21guns
      I looked at your past post and you claim to have a CCW. Your exempt from the safe handling demo. Yes you can buy the gun it's up to your FFL to transfer it correctly including the magazines.
      OK, but even though I'm exempt from the demo, it is still illegal to transfer into California an 11-round magazine, is it not?

      Another question: could the out-of-state FFL block the 11-round mags and ship them as 10-round ammunition feeding devices?
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        teg33
        Veteran Member
        • May 2013
        • 3441

        Originally posted by drno4
        OK, but even though I'm exempt from the demo, it is still illegal to transfer into California an 11-round magazine, is it not?

        Another question: could the out-of-state FFL block the 11-round mags and ship them as 10-round ammunition feeding devices?
        They can ship it after they block magazine to 10 rounds capacity, but not many out of state FFL will do that without additional fee

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        • #5
          drno4
          Member
          • Jun 2015
          • 351

          Originally posted by teg33
          They can ship it after they block magazine to 10 rounds capacity, but not many out of state FFL will do that without additional fee
          OK, great. Good to know. Want to stay legal and fully above board.

          This particular FFL has actually offered to block the magazines proactively, without an additional fee.

          Thanks for the information!
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          • #6
            kemasa
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jun 2005
            • 10706

            Originally posted by drno4
            OK, but even though I'm exempt from the demo, it is still illegal to transfer into California an 11-round magazine, is it not?
            No, it is legal if the person receiving it has a so-called high capacity magazine permit. If the CA FFL has the permit, they can receive the magazines and convert or sell them for you, rather than losing the magazines. I would suspect that most CA FFLs have the permit.

            Another question: could the out-of-state FFL block the 11-round mags and ship them as 10-round ammunition feeding devices?
            Yes.
            Kemasa.
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            • #7
              fsh4bass
              Member
              • May 2012
              • 127

              Be careful, there is a very specific model# listed on the roster and according beretta it hasn't been made for quite some time now

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                drno4
                Member
                • Jun 2015
                • 351

                Originally posted by fsh4bass
                Be careful, there is a very specific model# listed on the roster and according beretta it hasn't been made for quite some time now
                Are you referring to some list other than the Roster of Handguns certified for sale? Because the "Brigadier 96" is on there...
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                • #9
                  kemasa
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 10706

                  It is the certified list. Any changes to the firearm can mean it is not considered to be on the list.
                  Kemasa.
                  False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                  Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

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