Question re: PPT and shipping

[drno4]

Not an FFL myself. Have done several PPTs throughout the state but they've always been FTF.

Looking at a sweet Sig P229 in state but beyond a reasonable drive for myself and the potential seller. He and I both are ignorant when it comes to shipped PPTs.

Bottom line question: what are the rules/processes for shipping a PPT? How much more a hassle than a regular FTF?

Thanks for your help!

[CSACANNONEER]

No such thing. If it is shipped, it's just a regular dealer transfer just like if you ordered it from a distributor or off the internet. The only way it would be a PPT is if both parties were present at the FFL.

[drno4]

Ok thanks for clarifying.

So, to clarify, seller would go to FFL on his end, send to an FFL on my end, and (unlike a PPT) it would be subject to my 30-day DROS clock? Who pays to ship usually?

And, at what point (and how) do funds typically change hands on private ships like this?

Thanks again!

[Baboosh]

In order to be a PPT both parties have to visit the same FFL. Not together or at the same time but it has to be the same FFL.

If a firearm is shipped it is no longer a PPT, CA considers that a dealer sale.

Since it is a dealer sale it must be on roster, meaning if it is an off roster gun you can't buy it. It also falls in with the 1 in 30 rule.

The FFL cannot get involved in the funds transfer. If they do you will have to pay sales tax. Usually the seller wants funds before shipping but that is up to you and the seller.

[drno4]

Since it is a dealer sale it must be on roster, meaning if it is an off roster gun you can't buy it.

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That's no bueno. Looks like a six-hour roundtrip drive (twice) for yours truly, or no deal. Not sure I want it *that* badly!

Thanks for the informative counsel, guys!

[M1NM]

Looks like a six-hour roundtrip drive (twice) for yours truly, or no deal.

Add the money it will cost you to drive 12 hours and your time. Then add that to the price and you'll find one cheaper local. Put a wanted ad on CalGuns.

[drno4]

Wisdom has spoken. And prevailed! No 12 hour trip for me, as much of a beauty as it is...