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  • sound2man
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 30

    Multi-Gun PPT

    I purchased 5 guns, 2 rifles and 3 handguns, this weekend, and had an interesting time doing it, and I was wondering if all the info I received was accurate.

    I went to the FFL closest to me (a really small shop that is mostly a range, but they are a Glock dealer as well, and sometimes have a couple of used rifles for sale) and was told that if I did more than 3 guns in a day, that they would have to call the ATF and let them know. They also said that they could only do 2 rifles and one handgun, that they could not do two handguns at all in one transfer because they did not do the volume of larger FFLs.

    I said ok, and tried to transfer the two rifles and one of the handguns, but was notified that my handgun card was no longer enough, but you now needed a FSC. I was not aware since this is my first long gun purchase this year, so I told them that I did not have one, and asked for the test. I was told that they did not administer FSC tests.

    I finally got frustrated and when to another FFL who graciously allowed me to take the test, and transferred all 5 of the guns for a total of $75 (first FFL said that they could not do multiple guns on a single DROS, so it would be $35 per gun). Their service was great, they did request me to call ahead next time I did a multigun transfer, which I can understand since it took 2 hours to do all the paper work.

    I guess my questions are as follows:

    1. Can a FFL limit the number of guns in a single PPT?

    2. Can an FFL not be set up to issue a FSC?

    3. Do smaller gun shops have to notify the ATF if more than 3 guns are done in a single PPT? (second gun shop said this only applied to new guns).

    4. Can a FFL insist that they can only do 1 handgun PPT per person per day?
  • #2
    Baboosh
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2008
    • 6769

    Multi-Gun PPT

    If any non licensee gets 2 or more handguns within 5 business days the FFL is required to fill out ATF Form 3310.4

    If any non licensee gets 2 or more semi automatic rifles larger than .22 within 5 business days the FFL is to fill out ATF Form 3310.12

    This is normal and nothing to worry about.

    Starting January 1st 2015 you need a FSC.

    1) No the FFL cannot limit the number of PPT
    2) Yes an FFL can choose not to administer the FSC test
    3) All FFL need to notify the ATF if the above is met
    4) No an FFL cannot limit how many PPTs they will do
    Last edited by Baboosh; 08-09-2015, 9:15 AM.
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    • #3
      ke6guj
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      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Nov 2003
      • 23725

      2) but I believe the FFL has to be set up to issue FSC's, right? otherwise, how can they do the FSD? unless all they really have to be is a certified instructor but decide to never issue a test.
      Jack



      Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

      No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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      • #4
        sound2man
        Junior Member
        • Jan 2014
        • 30

        They used to do the handgun cards, I got mine there, but they say they don't do the FSC...

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        • #5
          Baboosh
          Calguns Addict
          • Jun 2008
          • 6769

          Multi-Gun PPT

          Originally posted by ke6guj
          2) but I believe the FFL has to be set up to issue FSC's, right? otherwise, how can they do the FSD? unless all they really have to be is a certified instructor but decide to never issue a test.

          If they are not setup in the FSC I do not believe they are a certified long gun instructor and therefore couldn't deliver long guns as they would not be able to do the safe handling.

          Your long gun cert us issued through the FSC system.
          Last edited by Baboosh; 08-09-2015, 1:51 PM.
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