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  • Erichp
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 830

    Interstate Transfer Roster Clarification

    I have read thru several posts or attempted to search, so please forgive this question if its very redundant. I cant seem to make heads or tails of the PC legalize.

    Scenario: You locate a used firearm on Gunbroker. It is not currently on Roster (lets say a Gen 4 Glock). As a non-licensee . non LEO, are there any qualifiers where a CA resident can legally DROS if shipped to a CA FFL from an out of state owner (private party) or shop (FFL)

    If I interpret it correctly, the seller being a private party is moot on interstate as their lack of a CDL removes its from the PPT transfer exception.

    Does it being used factor at all? I noted one reference to it not being allowed if this transaction was the first transfer but not clear if it being used would make this a second transfer.

    The apparent exception for a non-roster gun being on consignment seems to contradict the thinking that used is no different than new. Its it non roster its non roster, so wether its an outright sale and the CA is doing paperwork versus they put it on book first (or what ever consignment means legally) is effectively the same. That being they provided a CA resident a non-roster gun. To a lay person, consignment means its just technically owned by some else and effectively used. So what is the distinction if I understood correctly that consigned items are roster exempt?

    Any difference is the seller is an out-of-state FFL?

    Also it appears interstate transfer automatically means the 1 handgun per 30 day rule applies versus the PPT exemption.

    Appreciate any clarification and patience in answering.
  • #2
    halifax
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 4440

    If you are not exempt from the roster and its not coming from a parent, grand-parent, child, or grand-child its a no-go.
    Jim


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    • #3
      kemasa
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jun 2005
      • 10706

      A consignment sale means that it can actually be transferred as a CA PPT, which makes it exempt from the certified list.

      As said, unless you are exempt or the transfer is exempt (intrafamilial transfer), it can not be transferred.

      New/used makes no difference.

      A CA PPT requires both parties, CA residents, to go to the same FFL, which means if it is shipped, it can not be a PPT, regardless of where it is shipped from.
      Kemasa.
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      • #4
        Erichp
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 830

        Appreciate the detail on PPT. Can you please expound on the consignment aspect. Does the consigner have to be a CA resident or business, or can they be out of state?

        The inference I ran across referring to the consignment seemed to infer that there was no residency requirement around the consigner, and that struck me as being inconsistent.

        If that was the case, it would seem that the best course for a seller would be to consign their guns here to make a few extra bucks.

        I would assume to avoid that, a CA would dealer would be prevented from being able to contract as a consignee based on the consigners origin.

        Curious if here is a detail I am missing in that part of it.

        Thanks!

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        • #5
          Quiet
          retired Goon
          • Mar 2007
          • 30242

          Originally posted by Erichp
          Appreciate the detail on PPT. Can you please expound on the consignment aspect. Does the consigner have to be a CA resident or business, or can they be out of state?
          Yes, they need to be a CA resident.
          They will need to have a valid CA DL, CA ID, or Mil ID with permanent orders for CA.
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          • #6
            kemasa
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jun 2005
            • 10706

            What he said. The requirements don't change for a CA PPT just because it is a consignment.
            Kemasa.
            False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

            Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

            Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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            • #7
              Erichp
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 830

              Thanks again for taking the time to answer those questions.

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