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  • RZ Operations
    Member
    • Sep 2014
    • 175

    Roster - Sig Sauer #

    The roster lists:

    P239 (Blued) / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 3.6" 9mm 1/1/2016

    I see two at the distributors.

    239-9-BSS and 239-9-BSS-CA

    Can we only sell the one marked with the CA in the model #? I don't see anything in the DES that designates those model numbers and it only has the generic info that is on the roster.
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    kemasa
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jun 2005
    • 10706

    The list does not give ALL if the info and can be wrong.

    Basically it is a good assumption that you can only sell the CA version unless the buyer is exempt. In one case the model number is listed and it is not the CA version and for a while it was the so-called high capacity magazine version (229R-40-ESE, for example).
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    • #3
      RZ Operations
      Member
      • Sep 2014
      • 175

      I figured it was a safe assumption that only the ones with the CA serial is good but it's quite confusing when the roster is so generic.
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      • #4
        kemasa
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jun 2005
        • 10706

        In some cases there are no CA versions. I have to wonder about when they list the model and it is not the CA version. Does that mean you can't transfer the CA version? :-)

        It is possible to ask, but you have to get in contact with the department which has all the info. The people answering the phone don't know.
        Kemasa.
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        • #5
          RZ Operations
          Member
          • Sep 2014
          • 175

          I didn't even bother calling the DOJ knowing that the people on the phone wouldn't have a clue.

          I'm more curious on whether some dealers would just transfer the SKU 239-9-BSS.
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          • #6
            Baboosh
            Calguns Addict
            • Jun 2008
            • 6769

            Also the website list one Sku and the DES system list another. Are we suppose to check both? What if they conflict? Do we use the website or DES model?

            Like we don't have enough to worry about.
            Just a normal guy

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            • #7
              code_blue
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 3452

              I actually don't understand the difference between the CA version of the P239 and the standard version. LCI and Mag DC wasn't implemented on the P239 yet and I believe that they both have night sights. Mags are a non issue as both models hold sub 10 rounds.

              Not sure why Sig added the CA version to begin with.
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              Radian & Aero Pistol lowers, Folsom

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              • #8
                kemasa
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jun 2005
                • 10706

                Originally posted by RZ Operations
                I didn't even bother calling the DOJ knowing that the people on the phone wouldn't have a clue.

                I'm more curious on whether some dealers would just transfer the SKU 239-9-BSS.
                Actually, the person who deals with this has all the info and is quite helpful, as well as she has corrected problems.
                Kemasa.
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                • #9
                  cire raeb
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 1049

                  Just get the non-roster P239.

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                  • #10
                    RZ Operations
                    Member
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 175

                    Originally posted by cire raeb
                    Just get the non-roster P239.
                    So you would DROS the SKU without CA for a customer?
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                    • #11
                      RZ Operations
                      Member
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 175

                      Also, I noticed Glock only list by gun model #. Are we able to purchase a Glock 17 with 17 round mags and then switch them out with 10 round mags and DROS?

                      This is assuming that they are both still gen 3 and not made in USA.
                      Last edited by RZ Operations; 03-10-2015, 10:21 AM.
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                      • #12
                        kemasa
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 10706

                        Originally posted by RZ Operations
                        So you would DROS the SKU without CA for a customer?
                        I would only transfer a firearm in which I believe that it is on the certified list. Anyone who does otherwise is a fool and anyone who posts that they would do otherwise is stupid.

                        Originally posted by RZ Operations
                        Also, I noticed Glock only list by gun model #. Are we able to purchase a Glock 17 with 17 round mags and then switch them out with 10 round mags and DROS?

                        This is assuming that they are both still gen 3 and not made in USA.
                        As a dealer, if you have the so-called high capacity magazine permit, you can order firearms with so-called high capacity magazines and you can swap out the magazines.

                        It is always fun to mention to check the CA PC regarding a CA FFL selling so-called high capacity magazines, but the CA DOJ does not like that the CA PC says what it actually does.
                        Kemasa.
                        False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

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                        • #13
                          RZ Operations
                          Member
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 175

                          Originally posted by kemasa
                          I would only transfer a firearm in which I believe that it is on the certified list. Anyone who does otherwise is a fool and anyone who posts that they would do otherwise is stupid.



                          As a dealer, if you have the so-called high capacity magazine permit, you can order firearms with so-called high capacity magazines and you can swap out the magazines.

                          It is always fun to mention to check the CA PC regarding a CA FFL selling so-called high capacity magazines, but the CA DOJ does not like that the CA PC says what it actually does.
                          Thanks for your help Kemasa! I do have the high capacity magazine permit which is why I was wondering if it was an option to swap out.
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