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  • Eddy's Shooting Sports
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 1329

    HSC Refund "processing fee"

    Just got my refund check for a book of ten HSC cards I sent back to DOJ in January.They arbitrarily charged a $5 processing fee and only sent $145?

    Where do these loaf lickers get the idea that they can ding us for a refund on something they mandated and then obsoleted?

    Any attorney want to file a class action suit? I don't give two bits about the $5. It's just the principal about DOJ forcing fee after fee down our throats.

    They charge us $5 to refund our money, yet only allow us to charge $10 for a PPT. Something is foul here.
    Greg David
    Eddy's Shooting Sports
    (650)969-GUNS

    400 Moffett Blvd., Suite F
    Mountain View, CA 94043

    www.eddysguns.com

    Tue-Fri 12-7, Sat 11-5
  • #2
    kemasa
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jun 2005
    • 10706

    Well then they should pay my $5k processing fee for having to send it back.

    I would call and complain, which is most likely what I will also have to do.

    I would also be interested in legal action against them. They don't mention a fee on the sheet that they sent out.
    Kemasa.
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    • #3
      rbetts
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jan 2009
      • 1150

      Same here. Complete and utter BS.
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      • #4
        kemasa
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jun 2005
        • 10706

        Does anyone know if it is listed anywhere that they can actually charge a processing fee?
        Kemasa.
        False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

        Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

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        • #5
          Tyke8319
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Nov 2013
          • 2105

          The A.G.'s letter of Oct. 2, 2014, "Firearms Safety Certificate Program" which outlines the "program" and the steps to be taken to receive a refund on unused HSC's makes no mention of a "processing fee"; just the fact that unused cards must be submitted prior to March 1, 2015 in order to receive a refund.
          American soldier by choice. Made in America by the Grace of God.

          So, now it is ironic that the State whittles away at the right of its citizens to defend themselves from the possible oppression of their State.
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          • #6
            VC Defense
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 1099

            Happy I burned all mine up before the end of the year. I wouldn't be happy either.

            I didn't see a fee in the letter either.

            What burns my butt is the new process requiring us entering our name, address, CC #... every time we issue FSC(s)! Not worth the $10 we get and we now need to use our printer, ink.. to issue them.

            I understand needing a separate access point for instructors that are not FFLs, but us FFLs should have access through our DROS login and get billed once a month just like for DROSes.

            They still collect the same fee and pass some of the expenses off to us, so,

            You guys notice the report where they indicate they will (as best I can recall) have a surplus of ~$1M per year from the FCS system? If that's what they were able to fudge it down to, it is probably a lot more in reality.

            They should either lower the fee or up our end to $15 and there end down to $10 as they no longer need to print the cards, mail and handle the...
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            • #7
              Eddy's Shooting Sports
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 1329

              FWIW, you don't have to enter your address or email. Just enter your name, CC data, and submit. You won't get an email confirmation, but that's just spam anyway....
              Greg David
              Eddy's Shooting Sports
              (650)969-GUNS

              400 Moffett Blvd., Suite F
              Mountain View, CA 94043

              www.eddysguns.com

              Tue-Fri 12-7, Sat 11-5

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              • #8
                RZ Operations
                Member
                • Sep 2014
                • 175

                Originally posted by Eddy's Shooting Sports
                FWIW, you don't have to enter your address or email. Just enter your name, CC data, and submit. You won't get an email confirmation, but that's just spam anyway....
                Good to know! Thanks!
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                • #9
                  OCArmory
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 1321

                  I have never gotten an email confirmation

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                  • #10
                    kemasa
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 10706

                    I never received an email, but I did just recently checked get the check, minus the $5 that was stolen from the CA DOJ.
                    Kemasa.
                    False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                    Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

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                    • #11
                      uyoga
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 681

                      I sent mine back on 2/17. Having heard nothing, I sent them a follow-up email (with attachments) on 3/17. Still haven't heard anything. The idea of legal action to stop (and correct) the larceny sounds great.
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