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  • HK-40
    Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 196

    Gun collectors.

    Is a person who collects firearms , goes to gun shows , buys , sells , researches and trades firearms and firearm related items (grips, boxes, scopes etc), in a perfectly legal fashion is engaging in the business of dealing in firearms W/O a license?
    Last edited by HK-40; 02-26-2015, 11:31 PM.
  • #2
    djbooya
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 816

    For profit yes. Enhance personal collection no.
    DJBooya
    "Try Not! Do or Do Not. There is no Try..."
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    • #3
      HK-40
      Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 196

      Originally posted by djbooya
      For profit yes. Enhance personal collection no.
      What if occasional profit is in form of guns, accessories etc? Something like winning at the casino ,but not cashing the chips.

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      • #4
        SVT-40
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2008
        • 12894

        If your intent is to make money through the sale and purchase of firearms you are in business...

        If you acquire, hold and dispose of firearms in your collection with the intent of "improving" your collection you are a "collector"...

        Just because you may make a profit when you dispose of a firearm in your collection does not mean you are "in the business" of selling firearms.


        From the BATFE:

        "(C) as applied to a dealer in firearms,
        as defined in section
        921(a)(11)(A), a person who devotes
        time, attention, and labor to dealing
        in firearms as a regular course of
        trade or business with the principal
        objective of livelihood and profit
        through the repetitive purchase and
        resale of firearms, but such term
        shall not include a person who
        makes occasional sales, exchanges,
        or purchases of firearms for the enhancement
        of a personal collection or
        for a hobby, or who sells all or part of
        his personal collection of firearms; "


        (22) The term "with the principal
        objective of livelihood and profit"
        means that the intent underlying the
        sale or disposition of firearms is predominantly
        one of obtaining livelihood
        and pecuniary gain, as opposed to
        other intents, such as improving or liquidating
        a personal firearms collection:
        Provided, That proof of profit shall not
        be required as to a person who engages
        in the regular and repetitive purchase
        and disposition of firearms for
        criminal purposes or terrorism."


        Check out the below link for more info...
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